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    Hey, how are we all?
    I have always had a strong interest and passion for aviation and I am looking to get into plane spotting. Looking for some advice on a camera.
    I am currently looking at the Canon 4000d with the 75-300mm lens, is this any good? I also have my eye on the Canon 2000d but not sure which one to choose. I have a budget of around 500.

  • #2
    I wouldn't recommend buying the 4000D. It might be the cheapest but I don't think it will have a long life given that it has a plastic lens mount. You should at least go for a 2000D or have a look at used 3 digit canons with low shutter counts.

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    • #3
      So the 2000d is better than the 4000d?

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      • #4
        Yes it is definitely better.

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        • #5
          I'm just really undecided. I see many use the Canon 200d camera as well, I really don't know what to do :/

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          • #6
            I'd try and avoid a plastic mount body if possible, but at the end of the day i'm pretty sure you can get decent results from any of the current bodies when paired with good quality glass, which is the key. I've been editing some 20D pics from 2007 and I think that was an 8mp body, but they are paired with an L lens, and the quality combined with Photoshop 2020 makes for some very acceptable photos for JP.

            If you are open to some options, I would possibly consider some used bodies. I'd pick a Canon 40D and some used 70-200 F4 L glass. I reckon you could get that for under 500 and you would get some cracking images. I have used a 40D, it's a cracker for image quality even if it gets no where near today's multi-megapixel standards.
            Last edited by B7772ADL; 2020-07-12, 17:09.

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            • #7
              B7772ADL Thank you for your detailed explanation, really helped. I would be more than happy with used equipment. Currently looking on eBay and indeed there are some bargains with the 40d. Been looking at your photos on Jet Photos and they bring back some old memories! Excel, My Travel, Thomsonfly. Amazing airlines back in the day.

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              • #9
                Thank you!

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                • #10
                  Forget the lens in my first post. The P version does not work wit hthe D5100. Here you go: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-70-30...4656444&sr=8-7
                  My photo editing guide - updated and improved Feb. 2010
                  My Nikon D100,D200,D300, D800, D7200 basic spotting settings guide
                  ACIG - the best resource for military aviation information

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by seahawk View Post
                    Forget the lens in my first post. The P version does not work wit hthe D5100. Here you go: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-70-30...4656444&sr=8-7
                    Just another approach, if you go the Canon way. The 70-200 f/4 is a great lens, albeit only a 200mm one. The 75-300 has more reach, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you want a low cost lens which goes to 300mm, get yourself a Canon 70-300. It's affordable but with acceptable quality. I got this as a travel lens.

                    As for cameras, I also suggest you check the 2nd hand market for a used 40D, 50D, 60D, .... . After all, these are good cameras, still better than any 2000 or other 4-digit variants. And last but not least: save on the camera and invest more in lenses. That goes for any brand.
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                    • #12
                      Thanks for all your suggestions! greatly appreciated

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                      • #13
                        Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM is a good lens,
                        It is generally considered that the quality is better than the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6, but the STM version must be purchased, the previous version is not as good.

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                        • #14
                          If you go for Canon, you can look for a used 100-400mk I L lens. You should be more than happy with it

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                          • #15
                            A 100-400 that fits into the 500 pound budget together with a body, might be quite worn out. I also do not think a 10 year old semi-pro body from either manufacturer is a good choice, as the sensor is simply old and every entry level DSLR runs circles around them when it comes to image quality. On the Nikon side a D5100 and any successor in the series should do just fine. I got myself a D5600 for holidays and it is really amazing how good this little camera is. Sure the handling is not semi-pro style and you need to use the screen to change some settings that can be changed by pressing a button and turning a dial on the semi-pro bodies, but if you are new to photography the solution with the screen is maybe better, as it also offers you an explanation on what the setting does.

                            In the end we should not forget that airliners are easy subjects and pose no challenge to any modern ILC camera. They are big, usually have a clear contrast against the background and fly in a predictable way. I dare say a lot of the gear craziness you see with spotters is just wasted money.

                            If you think about airshow you can make an argument for a better body or if you want to to shoot challenging subjects like sports, birds or insects in flight, that is where the high end bodies shine.
                            Last edited by seahawk; 2020-07-16, 06:46.
                            My photo editing guide - updated and improved Feb. 2010
                            My Nikon D100,D200,D300, D800, D7200 basic spotting settings guide
                            ACIG - the best resource for military aviation information

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