I'm Really Ticked Off

[Bruce]

I'm normally mild mannered and dont do rash things when I get really mad, and I've taken a.net rejections by the hundreds but tonight I'm quite disappointed with airliners.net. Yeah I know its talking about the "other" site again.... but I submitted lots of pics from last weekends airshow (as well as continuing with ATL uploads) and every single one got rejected. badmotive for most of them, as well as badscan too. and badpeople. Well its a crowded airshow@!! There's hundreds of people there!

The pics are really quite good as far as pictures go. I surely thought more would get accepted. Yes I'll appeal but Johan rejects more than he accepts.

I just need to vent. I put a lot of hard work into these pics and they're not the same old boring shots. Heck, they got 5 pics of a damn ex-TWA 717 sitting at the paint hangar at MIA all shot from the same angle......and I put up a shot of the interior of a KC10Extender and a rare shot of the cockpit of an A10 Thunderbolt and they get rejected. Sheeesh.

Does this look like a bad scan to you? Well sure part of it is blurry because I'm shooting at an angle - its an A10 and they sure wont let me into the 1-person cockpit to get it straight-on!!!!!!

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=A10Thunderbolt2_5080.jpg

I'm definitely going to upload them here!

[mojo628]

The pictures not there.

Try something else for the viewing public to see.

[Bruce]

oooooo I'm sorry. I appealed that one and it gets removed from the reject queue. I forgot.

try this one, I'm not going to appeal it. I'm uploading it here.

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=F117Stealth_5123_new1.jpg

bruce

[mojo628]

Not bad... but they are some picky so&so's over there.

[Bruce]

geez.....picky! I'm also getting tired of all the "badsoft". It's almost like if you dont have ramp access then "fuggitaboutit" Here in the USA, we go thru hell sometimes just to take a picture if we dont have ramp access. Well, I'm glad that at least there's a site that doesn't have the "King Johan" mentality and recognizes that we do work hard to get pics like these.

bruce

[pilotguy]

Here in the USA, we go thru hell sometimes just to take a picture if we dont have ramp access.

I hear ya on that one!!

<--A.net screener
then...
"reject!"

[Bruce]

this one was an a.net reject last summer. badcommon and badmotiv, I think.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=96584

taking pictures is, and should be, fun. They just take the fun out of it.

[LX-A343]

Bruce

just my opinion about the two pics:

• the F117 Stealth is soft and above all bad cropped in my opinion. Why do you upload a 1500 pixel wide picture, and the aircraft itself doesn't fill half of the width? Cropping the same picture to 1024 pixels wide will help you a lot. As for the softness, if you crop it, I'll gladly accept it, how it is . A.net might be lots pickier on this matter.
• The LUV B737 is one of those rejections, which I really can't understand. Glad to have it on this site

Regards
Gerardo[/list]

[Bruce]

I see what you mean about the size. I cropped it, but I can't really add more USM because then I start seeing jaggies. With all these smaller planes I have a lot of trouble getting a good shot because I dont have a 10D camera shooting at 6megapixels or more. I guess a.net is turning into more of a pro site.

bruce

[LX-A343]

You could ask the pilot to fly a bit closer to the crowd

Cheers
Gerardo

[Leftseat86]

taking pictures is, and should be, fun. They just take the fun out of it.


Now you know why I left Bruce



With all these smaller planes I have a lot of trouble getting a good shot because I dont have a 10D camera shooting at 6megapixels or more. I guess a.net is turning into more of a pro site.

Dude, atleast you have a DSLR!!!! Think of us guys with 3MP compacts, it gets insane trying to get photos accepted...
What lense do you have on your D30?

I agree that the F117 should be cropped and uploaded in 1024. More plane, less sky would do some good. But sheesh...I dunno why anyone bothers over there...

-Clovis

[mikecweb]

You could ask the pilot to fly a bit closer to the crowd

You see Bruce its about going extra mile. Your never going to get pictures accepted unless you actually try. Come on now.

[Radomir]

Also... when it looks good.. just go back and reduce red tint by about 30%... I think this was already covered, but it's still noticable in the F-117 shot... it's just got too much purple tint to it...

[JeffinDEN]

Bruce,

Don't take this the wrong way, as I do enjoy most of your shots... But if getting rejections at A.net is getting you down, why do you even try? Just upload them here, you know they will get accepted. But deep down, you and everyone else that complains about A.net knows that A.net is still #1 when it comes to the best aviation photographs, and it is #1 because of the standards.

Now, you say A.net is more of a "pro" site? Do you say that because of what you think people are using to take their pictures? Or, is it the quality?
My response is the quality. It is there, and it is enforced. Be honest, there are some "nice" photos here, a lot of "junk", and a few "great" ones. It is the other way around "over there".

To you, a cockpit shot of an A-10, or the inside of a KC-10, or even a shot of an F-117 may be rare, but not to all of us. I have hundreds like them, taken from numerous places I have been while in the Navy. You won't see them here, not because they are not good photos, but because they are not "special" or would they appeal to the masses. If the photo is interesting, and close to technically perfect it has a better chance over there. And it will get 10 times the views. Here, they will be enjoyed by a different crowd.

I can get pictures accepted over there with a 2.1 mp Olympus C-700, so I don't buy the excuse that I need to use my D100 all the time to get stuff accepted. The difference is behind the camera, not the camera itself.

Jeff

[Bruce]

Clovis, I have a 300mm lens as well as a 19 (35mm equivalent = 30mm) but the standards over there are artificially inflated by all those people who have the 100-400 IS type lenses. So you see that if a guy cant even get D30 / 300mm pics accepted then its bad news for people with lesser cameras!!!

Woke up this morning and checked my inbox and guess what? A load of more rejections! not one accepted! Maybe a couple of them I can understand...but....badscan????

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=N901DL_4689.jpg

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=N901DL_4691.jpg

and here is a badmotiv badcolor

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=KC135_5267.jpg

perhaps the little red on the wing was some kind of reflection off the concrete I dunno. If all these creative angles are badmotive I guess all they want is 50mm side-on shots.

bruce