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  • #16
    Hi once again,

    This is the last photo I took that day.

    http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs219&d=07363&...H2_PICTURE.jpg

    Thanks to all for their helpful advice

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rohank4284
      Hi,

      Is this photo any better: http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs219&d=07363&f=GVIIH_PICTURE.jpg

      Also, on the other photo is there any way to tint the photo so it doesn't look so backlight

      Thank you
      Hey Rohank,

      Let me see if I can help you on your way with some pointers. Be advised that this is just my opinion, but I think you'll find that it'll take you a long way towards getting your pic accepted.

      Here are a list of things that I see wrong with your pictures (most of them have been mentioned before in this thread).

      1) Obstructed (or whatever it's called). As a general rule of thumb, you don't want ANYTHING in front of the aircraft, be it window frames, catering trucks lamp posts, cars and so on. There are of course execptions such as push back tractors and the like. Don't ask me for a hard and fast rule about which will get accepted, but have a look at these to get an idea.

      Accepted:
      [photoid=6031597]
      [photoid=6025433]

      They are accepted because the tow truck is "part of the story".

      Not accepted:

      http://www.pbase.com/rjuncker/image/82667535 The push back truck obstructing the view of the aircraft.

      It seems like most of your pictures are taken through a window from a terminal building. If you have time to roam around the airport, try to follow the traffic in the airport and hang out at empty gates and then capture the planes as they taxi in to the parking stand. That way you can get an unobstructed picture, before the jetty and ground service trucks surround and obscure the view of the aircraft. This leads me to the next point.

      2) If you are taking pictures through a window, it can be difficult to avoid reflections in the window. I don't know which kind of camera you're using. Whether it's a compact or an SLR, the best way to avoid this, is to put the lens right up against the window (so there's no air between the window and the lens). This takes care of that problem. I know full well that this is not always possible, but then keep the lens as close as possible to the window.

      3) Color cast (tint's) are pretty much impossible to avoid when taking pictures through a window (in my experience). One way around this, is in the editing stage. If you use photoshop CS or Elements, there's a fantastic feature. It's called "remove color cast". There's a full explanation about how to use the feature in PS.

      4) Back lighting. There's pretty much nothing you can do about this. A little backlighting can be corrected. if you take a picture at, say, 2PM when the sun is almost overhead, so even if the aircraft is backlit it is practically unnoticeable. But if you take a picture in the late afternoon (when the sun is low on the horizon), there's no way you can correct it (without it looking fake). The mentioned times of day vary according to where you in the world, of course. The only way you can use a truly backlit picture in the database, is if you intentionally try to create a silhouette. These pictures can look great, but can be hard to nail. Don't ask me about the rules for this, as I don't fully understand them. See examples below:

      Accepted:
      [photoid=5933042]

      Not accepted:
      http://www.pbase.com/rjuncker/image/73400544

      5) Next on the list is foreground clutter. This can also be difficult to avoid when taking pictures from terminals. But even though the objects don't obstruct view of the airplane, they are considered a nuiscance and will get the picture rejected. For instance, I was trying to convey a message of how chaotic and messy the apron is in Delhi, and therefore deliberately included a lot of things in the foreground, this picture was rejected due to foreground clutter. Looking back at it now, that is fair enough.

      http://www.pbase.com/rjuncker/image/72460134

      6) Horizon. Always make sure the horizon is level. Although this typically leads to a straight horizon line, the best way to ensure the picture is correctly oriented is, as mentioned before in this thread, to use a vertical line of a building for instance. Something that you know is actually vertical. Don't rely on lamp posts, as these are not always truly vertical. Check the levelling against the "grid", which can be found under "view" in elements.

      7) The last thing that comes to mind is to make sure that there are absolutely no dust spots on the picture. Dust spots are most noticeable on the sky. They can, however, be difficult to spot, if they are subtle. A good way to check for dustspots, is to equalize the picture (this can be found under filter in elements). If you find one you can either use the cloning tool or the spot healing tool.

      These were the things that initially came to mind after reading this thread. At first it may seem like there are a lot of rules and it can seem pretty daunting to remember all the things, but what I have experienced after joining JP is that, as frustrating as it is to have a picture rejected when you think you have nailed a good shot, it is a good way to improve your picture taking skills. I do a lot of other photography as well, but after I joined JP, I have really started thinking about composition and how to edit my pictures. On my own website I can upload whatever I want and therefore it is easy to get lazy. But, on JP there are no mercy.

      In the end all the guidelines on JP (rules if you will), are there to make it a pleasureable experience and to ensure that when you log on and see that there are 852 new pictures addded since your last visit, you're gonna get a top notch viewing experience. (Man... I should get a free elite membership for that paragraph )

      Sorry, this reply became a bit longer than intended, but I hope it has helped a little. Keep up the work. I'm sure you'll get there. I look forward to seeing your pictures on JP.net in the future.

      Cheers, R...
      If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough!

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      • #18
        Possibly the first one if you crop out the upright in the edge of the photo.

        Second ones a no go.

        Realy you need to get outside of the buildings to get the best photo. If you let us know what airport these are taken at im sure someone would help you find somewhere.

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        • #19
          Pictures of aircraft at the jetway taken from inside the terminal are notoriously difficult to get right enough to be acceptable. When you do get it right though they tend to be popular views on this site.

          There must be no obstructing objects, this doesn't mean that pushback trucks, catering trucks, people etc. can't be in the shot but they should not obstruct.
          This pic of mine of a BA A320 at Gatwick shows what I mean....

          [photoid=5991614]

          The baggage loading truck, ground power unit and ramp personnel are there but none of them obstruct the detail of the aircraft.
          Another example is this one with all the above present plus a catering truck...

          [photoid=5939201]

          Both of these are in the top six of my most viewed pictures.
          While taking pics from the departure lounges I find myself taking a wider view of what is there to be photographed and think about the composition of the shot. One good point with these type of shots is that the aircraft isn't going anywhere soon but the cluttering and obstructing objects may well be moving in the near future. I had to wait some 30 minutes for the BA A320 to be uncluttered by surrounding vehicles and people etc.

          It was a terrible wait because I had to sit in the bar and drink beer until the shot presented.
          If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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          • #20
            Can someone help me improve this photo

            Hi,

            I loaded this photo onto JP.net yesterday and unfortuneately it got rejected. Is there anything I can do improve the photo and maybe get it accepted into the database.

            http://www.jetphotos.net//viewreject_b.php?id=1584255

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            • #21
              I would say no. There is the foreground clutter. You should be able to find the CN/ Registration though.

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              • #22
                G-VIIH

                Boeing 777 - 236

                c/n 27490

                ....and on the subject of obstructing objects, see my earlier post along with that of RJunkers'.
                If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                • #23
                  Reg #: G-VIIH
                  C/N: 27490
                  A/C: Boeing 777-236(ER)
                  British Airways
                  Denver Int'l Airport - KDEN
                  USA - Colorado

                  not that you are gonna be able to save the pic though. if you look at the landing gear cover you will see the letters "IIH" those are the last 3 letters of the reg # and with the reg you can search the DB and find the C/N.

                  -Chris

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by brianw999
                    G-VIIH

                    Boeing 777 - 236

                    c/n 27490

                    ....and on the subject of obstructing objects, see my earlier post along with that of RJunkers'.
                    how is it that when i'm posting my reply that someone always seems to beat me to it. i gotta speed up my typing i guess.

                    -Chris

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                    • #25
                      how is it that when i'm posting my reply that someone always seems to beat me to it. i gotta speed up my typing i guess.



                      Don't worry, you wouldn't believe the number of times that's happened to me.
                      If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                      • #26
                        Hi,

                        Thanks for your help. I took most of my pictures on a Cannon Powershot A540 and they were taken at Denver(KDEN) and LHR. Here are some more of my images are these one's any better. Also, I was wondering what the best mode to put my camera in when taking pictures of planes, these were all taken in landscape mode.

                        Here are the links to the other photos:


                        BA boeing 747: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/259...picturets7.jpg

                        BA Boeing 747:
                        http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5...pictureek9.jpg

                        Frontier Airlines Airbus A319

                        http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/881...picturesm8.jpg

                        Thank you

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                        • #27
                          both BA photos have some window glare and are otherwise just plain boring. the F9 one has more foreground clutter than is acceptable. the best mode is either landscape or just normal mode. if you can i would suggest a higher end camera to improve your results. also if you don't see a photo like the one you took in the DB then it most likely won't get accepted. Happy shooting!

                          -Chris

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                          • #28
                            No.1 The first BA nose shot is heavily backlit and being in a shadow as well doesn't help at all. Can't see that one being salvageable.

                            No.3 The Frontier will be rejected for obstructing objects. One tip here. When the jetway is in position this angle of shot almost never makes it. Try to position yourself so that the jetway is behind the aircraft and keep lightpoles, window frames etc. out of the picture. Here's an example..

                            [photoid=5939201]

                            No.2 This one is very low in the frame which makes cropping difficult. When you take the shot try to frame the subject vertically and centrally level, leaving a little gap top, bottom and sides to allow for any rotation that may be needed.
                            This was the best I could do with it but the quality isn't really there and it's grainy.

                            If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                            • #29
                              Hi,

                              A very big thank you to everyone for your help, but I was wondering if this picture is any better, I know it's blurry, but I am talking about positioning, centering, focus, window glare, etc.

                              http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3...picturend1.jpg

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                              • #30
                                Centering: better but the A/C needs to be moved back some
                                Focus:Better
                                Window Glare: Much better
                                Dust Spots: a few (dust spots are much easier to fix when there are no clouds in the sky)
                                Foreground Clutter: bottom left draws away from it some
                                Other: seems rather dull (uncolorful) so add some color. as you have said it is a tad blurry. Not the greatest resolution either it appears. it is also a bit soft and it seems a little overexposed. the high sun doesn't help much either.



                                -Chris

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