the Screeners are always truthful? spoil the picture and send!

[Ediney]

Recently bought a Canon 50D with a 18-200 lens, I was very pleased with the camera, this camera with the lens is perfect pictures, dira I are perfect, however, to send the first pictures for Jet, I was surprised, I sent 13 pictures and 12 were rejected because they were too "perfect" I should spoils it leaves them a little less clear, this was the recommendation of the screener, I find it absurd, what do you have? Screeners do not come with pictures of the latest generation of cameras?
I think that the screeners are needed, but these people have broken our hobby, setting standards of photography that verge on the absurd, I believe the picture is much more than aeronautics reviews of Screeners that sometimes not even know shooting.

[Virgin777]

Huhh ?
What ?

To perfect ... thats a first

could you please show us a couple of examples of what you have had rejected ?
Or at least let us know what name they were uploaded under ?

Im not sure im fully understanding your post .

Please let us know the above and lets see what we can do to help you maybe reduce the quality a touch

Seriously please let us see whats been rejected .

Regards Tony

[twagenknecht]

Recently bought a Canon 50D with a 18-200 lens...

Congrats on the new camera...it is a great one...

Screeners do not come with pictures of the latest generation of cameras?

No, and in fact some have rather 'old' equipment, and ones that even accept film or slide media (O the horror...). The equipment has very little to do with the final outcome. Sure it helps, but there is much to do afterwards to ensure that the picture you took is of the highest quality. I have seen pictures come out of the 'worst' equipment that rivals the best, most up to date stuff on the market today.

My advice...get some books on workflow, or read some of the threads we have here on this site. Post some examples on the threads in the forums, and do not hesitate to take advice, and criticism from those around you. Yes this is a hobby, and it is quite fun...but that being said, even for the simplest of hobbies, there need to be standards.

Cheers,
Tim

[tommyalf]

I found your rejected photos and no comment was made to you saying they were too perfect. All your shots were rejected for being soft in appearance which is a result of not applying the proper amount of sharpening to each photo. All digital photos right out of the camera generally have a soft appearance to them.

As Tim said above you need to learn how to process and edit a photo correctly. Its easy to blame a group of people but the reality is the way you're editing your shots is the problem.

You can have a $10,000 setup but if you don't know how to use your camera or edit the photo the results will not be good.

[LX-A343]

I sent 13 pictures and 12 were rejected because they were too "perfect"

No, they were all rejected for soft, one in addition for dust spots, another for beeing similar to another you have in the db.

I should spoils it leaves them a little less clear, this was the recommendation of the screener, I find it absurd, what do you have?

There were no recomendations of the screener, as far as I can see, the photos have simply been rejected for soft and dust spots. Nothing was told you.

I think that the screeners are needed, but these people have broken our hobby, setting standards of photography that verge on the absurd, I believe the picture is much more than aeronautics reviews of Screeners that sometimes not even know shooting.

I don't think, that our standards are absurd. For absurd standards visit ... let's drop it . At least these standards are met by several hundreds of photographers, whose photos are accepted on a daily basis.

Apparently you have a new camera. My suggestion: get used to a new workflow.

[Jose Luis Silva]

I'm always trying to get my best photo, but untill now I'm still searching for it. It seems that, finally, someone in JP.net, achives the perfect spotting photo.

So, all of you screnners, in order to save you extra work, can you provide us those perfect shots?

I also will try to buy a new camera, but really, I don't want to RTFM.

Sorry for rant!

PS: For absurd standards..... oh mine... tried a couple of times on the ohter site.... but I always get: BAD NAME, BAD PHOTOGRAHER, BAD CITY and the most absurd of them: BAD EVERYTHING. So I give up for good!!!

Cheers

[Tanner_J]

Can we pleeeeeease see these?

[saupatel]

Strange, i had a post in here that got deleted. Oh well.

Can we see the pics ?

By the way, if you think they are absurd here, try uploading to the other site .

[Jose Luis Silva]

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By the way, if you think they are absurd here, try uploading to the other site .

[LX-A343]

Strange, i had a post in here that got deleted. Oh well.

Are you sure? I can't see any deleted post. Perhaps a connection hicup? Or posted erroneously somewhere else?

[saupatel]

Not sure gerardo, this was originally in the DPP forum and got moved. Either way no big deal.

FYI Ediney, good shots are a two step process. First is getting right settings and technique for the shot. Second part is good editing. It takes time and practice. Don't get frustrated.

[rohank4284]

Recently bought a Canon 50D with a 18-200 lens, I was very pleased with the camera, this camera with the lens is perfect pictures, dira I are perfect, however, to send the first pictures for Jet, I was surprised, I sent 13 pictures and 12 were rejected because they were too "perfect" I should spoils it leaves them a little less clear, this was the recommendation of the screener, I find it absurd, what do you have? Screeners do not come with pictures of the latest generation of cameras?
I think that the screeners are needed, but these people have broken our hobby, setting standards of photography that verge on the absurd, I believe the picture is much more than aeronautics reviews of Screeners that sometimes not even know shooting.

Welcome to Jetphots.net and congradulations on your nice new camera and good lens. How do you like the Canon 18-200 mm lens?

When I took my first batch of airplane photos on a point and shoot camera, I was stunned that they got rejected. Jetphotos.net has HIGH, but NOT ABSURD standards. Would JP.net be as popular with aviation enthusiasts if 50% of the photos were blurry, taken at horrible angles, had no purpose, etc.? Definitely not. People visit JP.net to see high-quality airplane photos.

That being said there are some good or even very good photos that won't make it onto JP.net, so if you want to share your photos on the internet, why not upload them onto flickr or myaviation.net? I have several photos there, too. I enjoy viewing those sites as well, as do many other people.

If the photos are soft, why not practice using Photoshop or another photo-editing program to fix that problem. Even photos shot on the best-equipment will require at least some post photo-processing to fix them. I know a former professional photographer and even he used Photoshop to slightly correct some imperfections in many of his photos. Digital photos taken directly off the camera likely will come out soft and have some color imperfections.

Many JP.net members/photographers are very helpful, try asking for help/advice on your rejected photos. I have experienced very similiar frustrations when I first started and said things against the screeners too, but I soon realized that it was a mistake to do so.

Could you at least post those photos that got rejected, there are many people on JP.net ready to help you.

Here's Jid Webb's workflow, a very helpful guide to post-processing.

http://www.jid.me.uk/workflow/index.html

Regards,

Rohan

[seahawk]

Today the camera and the lens is less then 20% when it comes to making a good photo. The rest is the user behind the camera and later behind his computer in the editing. We have users who constantly get photos accepted with a 6MP DSLR like the age old D100. But they know their camera, know its limitations and are good at editing their pics.

[gunna64]

Ediney,

I have the same kit (50D + 18-200mm IS lens) and I found the same problem, that the images were soft and after finding out what I should be looking for (and buying a 100-400L lens) I now realise what the screeners were saying.

The 50D is a great camera but requires top quality glass to make it perform at an optimum level.

One tip is to use the DPP software which comes with the camera which does a decent job of correcting some to the beasties that the maxizoom creates. It will not correct all the problems but might get you across the line when post processing your photos.

[Shanwick]

Strange, i had a post in here that got deleted. Oh well.

Can we see the pics ?

By the way, if you think they are absurd here, try uploading to the other site .

Yes I think the answer Saupatel maybe that your post was on the other forum...that Ediney duplicated when starting the thread.
All valid points made so far Ediney.I know English is not your first language,but I would think you would understand the main points people have made so far.It is up to you alone if you decide to listen.