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  • Rejections: RE: Poor lighting

    HI all:

    Got some rejections here in a batch....I was a little upset about these as I spent a lot of time working on them. That said, I CAN take criticism. These all came back poor lighting, backlit. It was a (obvisouly) severe clear day in PHX. Since I cant change the sun angle, are these trash photos??

    Also, how can I alleviate this on future days?

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=118683
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=118669
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=118662
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=118650

    Brad Kostelny
    Southwest Airlines Flight Attendant
    BWI Inflight Base [PIT Commuter]

  • #2
    Brad,

    Usually the sunny side of the aircraft must be shot.

    What u could do is, if u went to the airport in the morning, go in the evening, or vice-versa. That way, standing in the same position, you will have the sun working to your advantage.
    "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

    -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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    • #3
      Always shoot the sunny side of the aircraft. The number one basic rule. That fourth one looks a bit unlevel too...

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      • #4
        Re: rejections

        Hey all:

        So the lesson learned here is....if the sun is either directly above or on the opposite side of the aircraft, dont waste your time shooting.
        Brad Kostelny
        Southwest Airlines Flight Attendant
        BWI Inflight Base [PIT Commuter]

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        • #5
          Brad, the advice given above is sound. Don't think you can't take pictures under those conditions, just don't expect too much from them. Think about what is happening there....the camera see's all that light, and shortens the exposure to properly expose the bright background. Anything in the shadow will be dark and underexposed.

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          • #6
            Brad,

            If you have a spot metering mode on your camera you could get proper exposure of the airframe under backlit conditions, but then you will wind up with an overexposed and washed out sky. So the best thing to do is to make the light work for you and not try to force the photo no matter where the light is coming from. As a general rule the brighter the light the worse this problem will be for you. For example if you have a backlit shot on a day with a thin overcast the averaging meter on your camera may produce a well exposed shot though it will likely have low contrast. Tanuj has given you the best advice, if you can't change your spotting position to take advantage of the light, then change your time of day so the light is working for you.

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            • #7
              Dont shoot from there if the sun is like that. Unlike some other sites we do tend to discriminate against backlit shooting.

              -Clovis

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              • #8
                Hi Brad,
                I rejected those photos because you basically were shooting into the sun. They are nice shots, just taken from the wrong side. Try to photograph the planes on the sunny side, with the sun behind you. Hope this helps.

                Stephen

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                • #9
                  Sky Harbor can be difficult. It is very hard to get pictures from the North unless there is some cloud cover at certain times of the year, which can take months there! Advice, try getting a long zoom and hitting the side roads to the south of the airport.





                  North side of the airport, service road (Touchdown point)



                  Another tip, If you hit the service road on the north side of the airport and take it west until it turns south past the nothern runway, there will be a turn around. I would park there and shoot (Will be in direct sun)

                  Here are some shots from the area with my old 1.3 megapixel and 100mm zoom (UGH)

                  View



                  Type of shots


                  Move 100-200 feet away


                  A far better place is going to Goodyear 20 min away and getting shots like these


                  [photoid=112617]
                  [photoid=112599]
                  [photoid=112613]
                  [photoid=112612]
                  [photoid=112610]
                  [photoid=112603]
                  [photoid=112620]
                  And if you are really lucky, you may meet a nice guy and get shots like these!
                  [photoid=112626](ME)
                  Let us know how it goes. Good luck and hope to see more soon


                  Click Here to view my aircraft photos at JetPhotos.Net!

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                  • #10
                    Why are the wheels in the last shot wrapped in plastic?
                    I walked across an empty land
                    I knew the pathway like the back of my hand
                    I felt the earth beneath my feet
                    Sat by the river and it made me complete

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                    • #11

                      Plane was in storage at Goodyear A.Z. and they tape it up to seal the aircraft to keep the critters, sand, sun and me out!


                      Click Here to view my aircraft photos at JetPhotos.Net!

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                      • #12
                        Oddly, whoever put the planes in storage seems to have forgotten to install/engage any kind of control lock. A real bad thing to overlook for long term storage.

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                        • #13
                          Could it not be applied internally through the hydraulics, or are they bled out for storage?
                          I walked across an empty land
                          I knew the pathway like the back of my hand
                          I felt the earth beneath my feet
                          Sat by the river and it made me complete

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                          • #14
                            Kat,

                            Usually mechanical locks of some type are employed since over a period of time hydraulic pressure would tend to bleed off. One of the most common things that must be done with an aircraft coming out of long term desert storage is to replace most of if not all of the hydraulic seals. When they are not used for a while they tend to dry out and leak.

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                            • #15
                              Photos taken where the sun is in places other than directly behind you can work, but only in certain circumstances. This is the only way to get reflections on the aircraft, otherwise the sun overpowers them.

                              At some places however, most if not all the interesting movements occur when then sun is at it's worst, so there's no other option than to try your luck and give it a go....

                              [photoid=184696]

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