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  • Prescreening request/editing advice newbie Denis

    Hi,

    Could I please get a pre screen and/or advice on how to improve?

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    Thank you!

    Denis

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    Hi,

    I am trying to understand more about image processing.

    I have a Canon 80D which has so many settings but I have been reading that when shooting RAW the camera basically saves the image regardless of the aperture etc. Is that correct?

    What I am wondering is if that also applies to the settings like Picture Style on the 80D? In that also sharpness/details are set. I found that I need to use the FD (Fine Detail) setting to get the best possible pictures. Does that setting only affect the JPG file or also the RAW?

    Thanks,

    Denis

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    • #3
      Hi Denis,

      Aperture, ISO and shutter speed (and exposure compensation of those) still matter in RAW. The other settings like in-camera sharpening etc generally do not apply. You'll have to take care of those yourself as you process the RAW into a picture.

      Regards,

      Alex

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eurowing View Post
        Hi,

        Could I please get a pre screen and/or advice on how to improve?

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        Thank you!

        Denis
        1. soft, centering (too low)
        2. dark, dirty
        3. dark, cut off (poor crop left side)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Quebec Golf View Post
          Hi Denis,

          Aperture, ISO and shutter speed (and exposure compensation of those) still matter in RAW. The other settings like in-camera sharpening etc generally do not apply. You'll have to take care of those yourself as you process the RAW into a picture.

          Regards,

          Alex
          hi Alex,
          thank you for the response!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dlowwa View Post

            1. soft, centering (too low)
            2. dark, dirty
            3. dark, cut off (poor crop left side)

            thanks for responding!

            let’s see if i understand this.

            1.
            • centering - i can see that now that you say it
            • soft - maybe i am doing something wrong. the full res image is nice and crisp, but my upload limit is 1280 and when i lower the resolution during export the picture becomes soft. is there anything i can do better or am i just out of luck? i have set highest quality export settings (Lightroom)
            2.
            • dark - yup
            • dirty - what does that mean? sorry i am learning terminology here as well
            3.
            • dark - yup
            • bad crop - well that is the edge of the picture so i am probably just out of luck here. i guess the missing wing tip is the issue? could i salvage it by cropping more of the left side off? if i pulled the left edge closer to the engine?
            thanks for your time!

            Denis

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eurowing View Post


              thanks for responding!

              let’s see if i understand this.

              1.
              • centering - i can see that now that you say it
              • soft - maybe i am doing something wrong. the full res image is nice and crisp, but my upload limit is 1280 and when i lower the resolution during export the picture becomes soft. is there anything i can do better or am i just out of luck? i have set highest quality export settings (Lightroom)
              2.
              • dark - yup
              • dirty - what does that mean? sorry i am learning terminology here as well
              3.
              • dark - yup
              • bad crop - well that is the edge of the picture so i am probably just out of luck here. i guess the missing wing tip is the issue? could i salvage it by cropping more of the left side off? if i pulled the left edge closer to the engine?
              thanks for your time!

              Denis
              1) Usually a photo will look sharper after resizing, but Lightroom or Photoshop show the photo sharper than a web browser. Make a few tests, edit the photo and open it in your browser to check it again.
              2) dirty means, it has sensor dust spots. They can easily be cloned out.
              3) Maybe it looks better if you cuto off the whole wing tip. Other than that, try something different next time or maybe you have another photo from that sequence.
              My photos on Flickr www.flickr.com/photos/geridominguez

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LX-A343 View Post

                1) Usually a photo will look sharper after resizing, but Lightroom or Photoshop show the photo sharper than a web browser. Make a few tests, edit the photo and open it in your browser to check it again.
                2) dirty means, it has sensor dust spots. They can easily be cloned out.
                3) Maybe it looks better if you cuto off the whole wing tip. Other than that, try something different next time or maybe you have another photo from that sequence.
                sensor dust spot: is that what i see on the left edge of the image, just below the nose? that little dark round spot?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eurowing View Post

                  sensor dust spot: is that what i see on the left edge of the image, just below the nose? that little dark round spot?
                  Yes.

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                  • #10
                    Is this better or still too dark? crop okay? thanks!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eurowing View Post
                      Is this better or still too dark? crop okay? thanks!

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                      Better? Yes. Acceptable? Perhaps.

                      Not too dark. Bit soft towards the right side.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LX-A343 View Post

                        1) Usually a photo will look sharper after resizing, but Lightroom or Photoshop show the photo sharper than a web browser. Make a few tests, edit the photo and open it in your browser to check it again.
                        Okay. Does that mean I have to increase sharpness/clarity more before exporting?

                        Another question regarding a similar "issue", here is a screenshot how different colors look after exporting an image from Lightroom and opening it in the browser. Windows "Photos" looks just as bad. Colors are way over done but look fine in Lightroom... and what I notice now is that it looks quite a bit more extreme on my desktop than what you see on this screenshot, or at least what I see in my browser (Edge)? But you can certainly see what I mean. It is almost like bubble gum colors after the export (going from RAW to JPG with big reduction in resolution).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by eurowing View Post

                          Okay. Does that mean I have to increase sharpness/clarity more before exporting?

                          Another question regarding a similar "issue", here is a screenshot how different colors look after exporting an image from Lightroom and opening it in the browser. Windows "Photos" looks just as bad. Colors are way over done but look fine in Lightroom... and what I notice now is that it looks quite a bit more extreme on my desktop than what you see on this screenshot, or at least what I see in my browser (Edge)? But you can certainly see what I mean. It is almost like bubble gum colors after the export (going from RAW to JPG with big reduction in resolution).

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                          Color difference are a result of mis-matched color spaces/color profiles. Probably best to have everything set to sRGB to avoid such issues in the future.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dlowwa View Post

                            Color difference are a result of mis-matched color spaces/color profiles. Probably best to have everything set to sRGB to avoid such issues in the future.
                            Mismatch where, though?
                            I have set the export in Lightroom to sRGB per JP upload requirement. Aside from that, looking through the settings in Lightroom, all I can find is a setting for "External Editing" where I can change the color space for "Edit in Photoshop". But that doesn't affect Lightroom, does it? Well I still changed it but it made no difference when I export the image. Is there a setting that I have missed? I really looked...

                            Sorry, I am a little lost right now. I searched for color space settings in windows and my graphics card (nvidia geforce 780GTX) but came up with nothing.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by eurowing View Post

                              Mismatch where, though?
                              I have set the export in Lightroom to sRGB per JP upload requirement. Aside from that, looking through the settings in Lightroom, all I can find is a setting for "External Editing" where I can change the color space for "Edit in Photoshop". But that doesn't affect Lightroom, does it? Well I still changed it but it made no difference when I export the image. Is there a setting that I have missed? I really looked...

                              Sorry, I am a little lost right now. I searched for color space settings in windows and my graphics card (nvidia geforce 780GTX) but came up with nothing.
                              Not sure, since I don't use LR myself, but that kind of color shift when going from one workspace to another is a textbook example of the color profile assigned to the image not matching with the color space being used to display it. LR doesn't allow you to adjust the workspace color profile? In PS, it's under Edit -> Color Settings (next to Assign/Convert to Profile).

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