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  • jhud922
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post

    Just saw your post, and I’m starting to figure that out about the screening process here. Photos with 0 noise reduction are rejected for being overprocessed, and shots in full sunlight are rejected for too little contrast, even after contrast was added. I guess the idea of avoiding harsh shadows due to direct sunlight gets thrown out with aviation photography.
    There is a worship of the almighty equalize tool. Basically you need to submit your photo to the queue, and then use the "check for dust spots" tool. If there is any halo effect anywhere at all, it will be rejected, no matter how invisible it is without equalizing. Basically you can't touch the highlights or shadows sliders.

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Originally posted by jhud922 View Post
    OP,

    Just my thoughts here, but what i've found over the last 6 months or so is that the screeners really prefer an extremely contrasty image. In my opinion, a far, far more contrasty image than traditional photography rules dictate, but then I am not really sure what the background is to most of the screeners here, or even the background of the site's admins who may dictate these rules.

    So what I usually do is lightly edit the image mostly for any major dust spots, and then when it looks good, just bump the contrast a bit. It seems wrong at first but you can always have a correctly edited photo for your own site, instagram flickr etc
    Just saw your post, and I’m starting to figure that out about the screening process here. Photos with 0 noise reduction are rejected for being overprocessed, and shots in full sunlight are rejected for too little contrast, even after contrast was added. I guess the idea of avoiding harsh shadows due to direct sunlight gets thrown out with aviation photography.

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  • jhud922
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    OP,

    Just my thoughts here, but what i've found over the last 6 months or so is that the screeners really prefer an extremely contrasty image. In my opinion, a far, far more contrasty image than traditional photography rules dictate, but then I am not really sure what the background is to most of the screeners here, or even the background of the site's admins who may dictate these rules.

    So what I usually do is lightly edit the image mostly for any major dust spots, and then when it looks good, just bump the contrast a bit. It seems wrong at first but you can always have a correctly edited photo for your own site, instagram flickr etc

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post

    Thanks, that’s helpful. I originally assumed that you were saying there was too much contrast so I went the wrong direction.
    Contrast problems will 95% of the time be related to lack of/flat contrast.

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post

    As with the previous, flat contrast and slight magenta tint for both.
    Thanks, that’s helpful. I originally assumed that you were saying there was too much contrast so I went the wrong direction.

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post

    Any further comments as to why? There is no noise reduction applied at all, and turned down the contrast and saturation below zero. Any less contrast and it would begin to wash out. It would be helpful if I could understand what aspect of the photo is over processed or has a color cast? Thanks!
    As with the previous, flat contrast and slight magenta tint for both.

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post

    Not really.
    Any further comments as to why? There is no noise reduction applied at all, and turned down the contrast and saturation below zero. Any less contrast and it would begin to wash out. It would be helpful if I could understand what aspect of the photo is over processed or has a color cast? Thanks!

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post

    Are these any better?
    Not really.

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post

    1. overprocessed, borderline color/contrast
    2. borderline color/contrast
    Are these any better? Thanks!

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post
    Looking for pre-screening feedback. Particularly concerned about rejection for being over-processed on both, and contrast issues on the 1st one. Thank you!
    1. overprocessed, borderline color/contrast
    2. borderline color/contrast

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Looking for pre-screening feedback. Particularly concerned about rejection for being over-processed on both, and contrast issues on the 1st one. Thank you!

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post
    Hi. Looking to get pre-screening advice for this one. Previous photos were rejected for softness, so instead of adding sharpening trying to get better focus SOOC with this shot. Also, would the contrast from underside shadows be too much since the photo was taken in direct sunlight? Finally, I know there is some (hopefully minor) haloing around the wheels, since they are contrasted against the sky. Would this amount of haloing be too much? Thanks for your help!
    Borderline overprocessed, but otherwise would be ok for me.

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Hi. Looking to get pre-screening advice for this one. Previous photos were rejected for softness, so instead of adding sharpening trying to get better focus SOOC with this shot. Also, would the contrast from underside shadows be too much since the photo was taken in direct sunlight? Finally, I know there is some (hopefully minor) haloing around the wheels, since they are contrasted against the sky. Would this amount of haloing be too much? Thanks for your help!

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by RC-Aviation View Post
    Attempt #2. Tried a different editing technique with the first one If it's better received I'll try it with other similar photos. Ended up with less contrast than before. The halos should be gone, though the halo on the bottom of the fuselage was present in the RAW file before any editing was made, unless it was present somewhere else. Also re-cropped the image using a different overlay, it should be much closer to center than before.
    This one should be fine. Maybe a touch soft in spots, but would be ok for me.

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  • RC-Aviation
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    Attempt #2. Tried a different editing technique with the first one If it's better received I'll try it with other similar photos. Ended up with less contrast than before. The halos should be gone, though the halo on the bottom of the fuselage was present in the RAW file before any editing was made, unless it was present somewhere else. Also re-cropped the image using a different overlay, it should be much closer to center than before. Please let me know. Thanks!

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