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    Good evening,

    I need help with this: I just got a first picture of a French Air Force Rafale C rejected, see here: https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=12133990

    The registration is 152 and as the Serial Number / c/n in the database is always the same at all the French Air Force Rafale planes (https://www.jetphotos.com/aircraft/Dassault+Rafale+C), most of the time with a "C" in advance, so I typed in "C152". Now after a long screening process the picture was rejected due to "Bad Info: Serial Number/CN" but without stating any hint, what the correct number would be.

    As every other French Air Force Rafale in the database has the Serial Number the same way, I don't see why this wouldn't count for the Rafale 152.

    Any hint would be appreciated, thanks in advance!

    Best regards

    J. Wirl

  • #2
    Long screening process on a hot photo ? What do you mean by that ?

    But yes, cn needs to be 152 not C152

    Hope it helps
    Regards
    Alex

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    • #3
      Thanks for the quick reply! The screening process itself took almost 7 hours so I already assumed there must be something wrong whith the upload. (That wasn't meant as criticism​, please don't get me wrong here.)

      What I don't get, if I search for Rafale C pictures (https://www.jetphotos.com/aircraft/Dassault+Rafale+C) there are so many with a "C" in the Serial Number. Why is that correct for those pictures but not for mine?

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      • #4
        Yeah I can understand the confusion. Will talk with the database guys

        Thank you for your patience, 7h is indeed a lot for a hot image

        cheers
        Alex

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        • #5
          Perfect, thanks a lot. Yeah, would be a good step to mainstream the database regarding to this.

          Maybe you can also do something about the rejection? It feels a bit wrong, to get "punished" for the 50/50 chance of getting this right. Of course I would change the Serial Number to the correct one afterwards.

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          • #6
            Ok, the picture is added now, let's wait for a final clarification from the DB gurus

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            • #7
              Perfect, thanks for that!

              By the way, same issue for the Rafale B: https://www.jetphotos.com/aircraft/D...t%20Rafale%20B

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              • #8
                To be fair, I don't know how it was that most c/n's have a C. It seems this shouldn't be the case. Will try to correct them
                “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

                Erwin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Alex - Spot-This ! View Post
                  7h is indeed a lot for a hot image
                  Alex
                  That's not unusal if I upload hot pictures in the early morning hours (~0500-0700 UTC).
                  It can happen that it the picture is immediately added to the sreening cue (less than 10sec) and after can take many hours until it's being accepted.
                  Not sure how the system works, but I have the impression that this is sometimes related to the number of screeners involved.
                  My picture cue e.g. suddenly switches from 2 to 3 rejected (without being actually rejected) and afterwards it takes a quite a few hours until it is being accepted or rejected.
                  Regardless how many hours it takes, it's a million times better than to wait 3 weeks until it's being rejected
                  bernt stolle aviation photos on JetPhotos
                  Bernt Stolle - Art for Sale | Fine Art America​​

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                  • #10
                    The letter "M" (Marine) for the Navy version, "B" (Biplace) for the two-seats and "C" (Chasseur) for the single seat, should NOT have been necessary as long as French forces were the only user of Rafale.
                    The c/n of M are one or two digits from 1 to xx, the B are three digits from 301 to 3xx and the C are three digits from 101 to 1xx.
                    BUT this is changing with export, and letters will be necessary to distinguish the different series and versions, each country having specific versions.
                    For example, a two-seater for Qatar Emiri Air Force will be DQ3xx, a single seater for Indian Air Force will be EH1xx...
                    So the letters beginning the c/n will be (remain ?) necessary.
                    However, note that the "true" c/n's in the Dassault's books are 13 digits numbers and not public.
                    Note also that the second hand delivered to Greece or Egypt kept their original number.
                    Note at last that Dassault could change all this, one day (or another)....

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                    • #11
                      For information, the 41 Rafale "B" I have registered in the database were all posted and accepted with serial numbers B3xx, following what was previously made for the same aircrafts.
                      Idem for my few "M" and "C".
                      For all these reasons, my opinion is that the type-identification letter(s) should be displayed...

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