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    I decided to go to AMS today for my first time ever photo-spotting. I grabbed my (t)rusty Canon G5 and headed for the airport .
    With some trail-and-error type "photography", I ended up with shots ranging from bad to downright terrible.

    Here's one that was a little better than the rest (which says a lot about the rest )
    I also *tried* to edit the picture with the help of Jid's workflow, although I probably messed it up a little


    As you can see I am a complete noob when it comes to photography and editing, but hey, I'll get it right someday. (I hope )

    Okay, let the suggestions, insults and criticisms fly!


    For the ones that haven't already clicked the "back" button in absolute horror, here's a link to the original picture, so if you think this picture is salvageable, go right ahead, I'd love to see what people with editing skills can do with it

  • #2
    Hello there.

    Despite your numerous 'put-downs' of your Photograph, that is, in my opinion, a fantastic start. I have seen worse 'first time out' Photographs, myself included.

    I think it is a great first time editing aswell. My first time edits were not brilliant at all. It looks to me like you've covered the basics. Re-size, sharpen, level, crop etc...

    If you want a small critism, there is quite a bit of grain in the sky. The colours in the Photo are generally good and contrast well.

    Your off to a good start. Take the comments onboard which you'll get and you will get better. Just keep working with the Photos and the settings in the Camera. Keep at it and you can only improve.

    Cheers,
    EastMidlands

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    • #3
      For a first time, i think you did great. I think this shot has a chance in the DB with some editing.

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      • #4
        for a first shot, I really like it!
        A little bit of over-exposure and grain around the tail, but with a little bit of editing in PS, I can definitly see it making the DB.


        Good Work!

        My $0.02
        Christian Vlček Sullivan | Through The Fence Photography
        Forever New Frontiers

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        • #5
          I think everyones right...don't be too hard on yourself. This shot is a work of art compared to my first spotting trip! lol

          A few of the changes as stated before, (I think it could also use about .3-.5 CW rotation) and I think you got yourself a winner.

          Good work...keep em coming!
          Canon 20D & BG-E2 Grip
          EF 50mm 1.4 USM
          EF-S 18-55mm
          EF 28-135mm IS USM
          EF 70-200mm f4L
          EF 100-400L IS
          1.4X II Teleconverter
          Canon 420EX Speedlite
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          • #6
            Originally posted by EastMidlands
            Hello there.

            Despite your numerous 'put-downs' of your Photograph, that is, in my opinion, a fantastic start. I have seen worse 'first time out' Photographs, myself included.

            I think it is a great first time editing aswell. My first time edits were not brilliant at all. It looks to me like you've covered the basics. Re-size, sharpen, level, crop etc...

            If you want a small critism, there is quite a bit of grain in the sky. The colors in the Photo are generally good and contrast well.

            Youíre off to a good start. Take the comments onboard which you'll get and you will get better. Just keep working with the Photos and the settings in the Camera. Keep at it and you can only improve.

            Cheers,
            EastMidlands
            Thanks
            I really thought it was one of the worst set of pictures Iíve ever made; my camera really isnít cut out for this kind of photography.
            The grain is killing a lot of my pics, I used neatimage on it but if Iím afraid that if I use too much it will go very soft, even with the low setting I use now the grass is becoming a bit blurry.
            While Iím busy saving up for a DSLR, Iíll just keep practicing
            Originally posted by YYZPICS
            For a first time, i think you did great. I think this shot has a chance in the DB with some editing.
            Thanks
            It was never intended to go into the DB, but I appreciate the confidence!
            Originally posted by [email protected]
            for a first shot, I really like it!
            A little bit of over-exposure and grain around the tail, but with a little bit of editing in PS, I can definitely see it making the DB.


            Good Work!

            My $0.02
            Thanks
            Please tell me how to get rid off the over-exposure with PS7, I canít find anything on how to get rid of it (or at least lessen it)
            What I said to YYZPICS goes for you to, thank you for the confidence
            Originally posted by medic1
            I think everyoneís right...don't be too hard on yourself. This shot is a work of art compared to my first spotting trip! lol

            A few of the changes as stated before, (I think it could also use about .3-.5 CW rotation) and I think you got yourself a winner.

            Good work...keep em coming!
            Thanks
            I leveled it again and I gave it an extra .3 CW rotation, the result can be seen in my first post, thank you for pointing that out

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            • #7
              Hi!

              Very nice photo for your first attempt - wish mine had turned out that way on my first shooting.

              I had a go at you pic and came up with something like that, please dont kill me - i'm sitting in the office in front of a crappy flatscreen that maybe doesn't show me the whole truth.




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              • #8
                Indeed a very good first attempt. As indicated above there is a little over exposure in the tail and little dark/under exposed. Careful work with your rgb curves will brighten the whole image up without affecting the luminosity to much. You have to watch the work flow of that Jid fella, I have heard he might be updating it soon but we will have to wait a few weeks for that. Anyway here is my humble attempt.


                Keep the shots coming .. Jid

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EastMidlands
                  Hello there.

                  Despite your numerous 'put-downs' of your Photograph, that is, in my opinion, a fantastic start. I have seen worse 'first time out' Photographs, myself included.

                  I think it is a great first time editing aswell. My first time edits were not brilliant at all. It looks to me like you've covered the basics. Re-size, sharpen, level, crop etc...

                  If you want a small critism, there is quite a bit of grain in the sky. The colours in the Photo are generally good and contrast well.

                  Your off to a good start. Take the comments onboard which you'll get and you will get better. Just keep working with the Photos and the settings in the Camera. Keep at it and you can only improve.

                  Cheers,
                  EastMidlands
                  And that my freind IMHO is the kind of comment that sets this Website apart from any other of the same type.

                  This is actually a nice place to be and not a battle ground of Ego's.

                  *rant off*

                  Lee "Shaggy" Shand

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                  • #10
                    "And that my freind IMHO is the kind of comment that sets this Website apart from any other of the same type.

                    This is actually a nice place to be and not a battle ground of Ego's."

                    Can't imagine where you mean!

                    Andy

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by exmanx
                      "And that my freind IMHO is the kind of comment that sets this Website apart from any other of the same type.

                      This is actually a nice place to be and not a battle ground of Ego's."

                      Can't imagine where you mean!

                      Andy
                      *cough*a.net!*cough*

                      @Jid, I am eagerly awaiting your updated workflow
                      Christian Vlček Sullivan | Through The Fence Photography
                      Forever New Frontiers

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                      • #12
                        Hi!

                        Originally posted by Shadower
                        Thanks
                        I really thought it was one of the worst set of pictures Iíve ever made; my camera really isnít cut out for this kind of photography.
                        The grain is killing a lot of my pics, I used neatimage on it but if Iím afraid that if I use too much it will go very soft, even with the low setting I use now the grass is becoming a bit blurry.
                        While Iím busy saving up for a DSLR, Iíll just keep practicing
                        Well, your Camera seems to be good enough for here with a little work! I have to use NeatImage with each of my Photos. There is a way to use it without making the grass/tarmac go soft/blurred,

                        I achieved it by starting off here:

                        http://www.rockymountainavphotos.com.../Workflows.htm
                        (Click on 'Fergul McClean's workflow document')

                        In this workflow, Fergul mentions something about using neatimage and 'select inverse' during Sharpening. Read that part. If you follow it and work with it, when you use neatimage after editing, it doesn't effect the grass as much or at all. When I first followed it, it didn't quite work that well, but I adjusted it to suit me and built on what was written. It is to do with selective sharpening and selecting inverse etc... See how you go and if you want anymore help, or precise instructions from me, just drop me a line.

                        Keep Practising.

                        Originally posted by [email protected]
                        @Jid, I am eagerly awaiting your updated workflow
                        Same goes for me

                        Originally posted by Shaggy
                        And that my freind IMHO is the kind of comment that sets this Website apart from any other of the same type.
                        Cheers Shaggy.

                        Thanks,
                        EastMidlands

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ThomasW1974
                          Hi!

                          Very nice photo for your first attempt - wish mine had turned out that way on my first shooting.

                          I had a go at you pic and came up with something like that, please donít kill me - Iím sitting in the office in front of a crappy flat screen that maybe doesn't show me the whole truth.
                          http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3096/img0046a3lh.jpg
                          Thank you
                          You seem to have reduced the amount of over exposure on the tail, certainly looks better .
                          Originally posted by jid
                          Indeed a very good first attempt. As indicated above there is a little over exposure in the tail and little dark/under exposed. Careful work with your rgb curves will brighten the whole image up without affecting the luminosity to much. You have to watch the work flow of that Jid fella, I have heard he might be updating it soon but we will have to wait a few weeks for that. Anyway here is my humble attempt.
                          http://www.jetphotos.net/user-upload...46_v_jid01.jpg

                          Keep the shots coming .. Jid
                          Thank you for the workflow (without it I wouldnít have known where to begin editing) and the advise, it is much appreciated
                          I started playing around with the curves and although I havenít managed to get it right yet, I think it has improved slightly.


                          Originally posted by EastMidlands
                          Hi!

                          Well, your Camera seems to be good enough for here with a little work! I have to use NeatImage with each of my Photos. There is a way to use it without making the grass/tarmac go soft/blurred,

                          I achieved it by starting off here:

                          http://www.rockymountainavphotos.com.../Workflows.htm
                          (Click on 'Fergul McClean's workflow document')

                          In this workflow, Fergul mentions something about using neatimage and 'select inverse' during Sharpening. Read that part. If you follow it and work with it, when you use neatimage after editing, it doesn't affect the grass as much or at all. When I first followed it, it didn't quite work that well, but I adjusted it to suit me and built on what was written. It is to do with selective sharpening and selecting inverse etc... See how you go and if you want anymore help, or precise instructions from me, just drop me a line.

                          Keep Practicing.

                          EastMidlands
                          Thanks for the link; it has thought me a lot.


                          Everyones nice comments and great help have pushed me to take another look at my pictures. I fooled around with a couple of them and it made some nice improvements.
                          Here's one I like after editing.


                          Please, tell me what you think

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                          • #14
                            Hi!

                            I think it is a nice shot, and if it was me, I would upload it!

                            Good Luck!
                            EastMidlands

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                            • #15
                              737 should get on with no problems

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