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    I think I might like a second opinion on this. I tried to add this photo to the database, I have been previously dissapointed with having no photos accepted, but for reasons I could see. On this one, the reasons given are what I what describe as "bullshit". The horizon is level, the aircraft is centred as much as possible, and as for 'bad composition' what was that guy on? I don't mean to insult anyone, but I'm very dissapointed, the only reason I can see is the foreground clutter, which is light and is part of the photo.

    Please help on this.

  • #2
    mind posting the photo...?
    Christian Vlček Sullivan | Through The Fence Photography
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    • #3
      oops, sorry, got so caught up in ranting, forgot to do the most important thing :P

      http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1249671

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      • #4
        alright, heres my take on it:

        - Bad Composition (bad framing / aircraft not centered)
        somewhat odd angle, the wing and tail being cut off doesnt help this much

        - Obstructing Objects / Foreground Clutter
        baggage cart

        - Undersharpened (Soft)
        try sharpening it a little in photoshop or another program


        - Part of aircraft cut off
        wing and tail cut off

        - Horizon unlevel
        horizon seems to be leaning to the right a bit, rotate to the left

        - Bad motive
        this I guess is caused by everything else combined
        Christian Vlček Sullivan | Through The Fence Photography
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        • #5
          To be honest im not sure how you can argue with that rejection.

          - Bad Composition (bad framing / aircraft not centered)
          = Probably because there's to much dead space at the bottom and you've chopped the tail off

          - Obstructing Objects / Foreground Clutter = Probably because of all the luggage and the guy

          - Undersharpened (Soft) = Needs sharpening - But i'd keep this for the personal collection if I was you

          - Part of aircraft cut off =
          The tail.

          - Horizon unlevel = Whole image tilts to the right...

          - Bad motive =
          You'll have to ask a screener about that one.

          If you need help with your shots then there's places on here where the screener's will help you. There's no need to have a rant over it, just take the rejections away and practice

          Nevermind, Christian beat me to it

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          • #6
            yeah, I agree with Sam, its probably one for the personal collection. Even if you fix up the horizon and the sharpness, its still got a lot of plane missing, so its probably a no-go.


            just my $0.02
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            • #7
              As for the horizon thing, the runway is not level, that's how i know the photo is level.

              Unfortunately, the original picture had the tail cut off a bit, I did not edit it out, but it is only about half an inch anyway.

              May I add that there is only one other picture of the aircraft on this website, and it is of a very poor quality.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheDr2
                As for the horizon thing, the runway is not level, that's how i know the photo is level.
                ahh, yeah, now that I look at the mountains and the plane I can see what you mean.

                are there other pics of Air Seychelles DHC-6s? In a case like this the individual registration of the aircraft wouldnt really IMO warrent an acception
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                • #9
                  I think the main issue is that you didn't take the photo your self! So you can't upload it!

                  Soren
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                  Soren Madsen

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                  • #10
                    Chill out a little. Most of the rejection reasons have already been answered but here's my take on one of them -

                    * Bad motive - I think the screener/s who screened it would have to answer this one.

                    Most importanty of all though, I did notice that you stated in the remark field that this photo was not taken by yourself. I'm only guessing but this maybe the reason for the 'motive' rejection, as it is strictly forbidden to upload photos which were not taken by you. Now that's definitely one less thing that you can "rant" over....

                    Dale
                    Last edited by G-DALE; 2006-12-16, 21:48. Reason: Soren beat me to it...

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                    • #11
                      So you upload a shot that isn't yours and moan when it gets rejected... Also, in my opinion the other shot is alot better than the shot you have uploaded

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RingwaySam
                        So you upload a shot that isn't yours and moan when it gets rejected... Also, in my opinion the other shot is alot better than the shot you have uploaded
                        However there are shots in the database that have not actually been taken by the uploader......I am assuming permission has been granted and this has been made clear in any remarks to the screeners?
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                        • #13
                          Chill out mate, you did yourself no favours by saying the rejection reason is 'Bullshit", and as for saying 'what was that guy on?'......how about 'what are you on?'.

                          I have 8000 in the database, I have screened over 150,000 pictures for this site.......doesn't mean I don't get rejections when I upload garbage.

                          The screening team (which I am no longer part of btw) gives up their spare time to screen your pictures and answer your questions in the forums and they get NOTHING in return except the satisfaction of knowing that they have helped people enjoy their hobby. They do not deserve to be on the end of a rant like yours.


                          Now, about that picture.......

                          The major problem is that you did not take it yourself, speak to admins and sort out how to get around this problem-you will need to use your grandfathers name I imagine. There is no chance of the shot being accepted when there is a big baggage cart in front of it. Can't really tell about the sharpness as I am using a laptop. The top of the tailplane is cut off-no point arguing about that one. You need to rotate slightly anti-clockwise to make it level. Bad Motive.....well what exactly were you trying to show us? the screening guidelines mention that shots taken from reverse angles are harder to get accepted.

                          You can fix some of the issues with this shot, but the baggage cart is the biggest problem, I don't see that this shot will ever get onto the database.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by G-DALE

                            Most importanty of all though, I did notice that you stated in the remark field that this photo was not taken by yourself. I'm only guessing but this maybe the reason for the 'motive' rejection, as it is strictly forbidden to upload photos which were not taken by you. Now that's definitely one less thing that you can "rant" over....

                            Dale
                            Is there a difference on how old the photo is before you grant a permission compared to the rejected photo regarding "not the photographer part."

                            [photoid=5696323]
                            The picture is taken by my father when the aircraft was holding in the maintaince aera. He won a contest in a Danish Newspaper and the prize was to get inside Kastrup Airport to have a closer look at the famous Concorde.
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                            Im not saying this concorde should NOT be uploaded. No pun here, just using it as an example, as I belive there should not be exceptions. wether who took it or not. Otherwise it just make the concorde photo just ironic, even though it is an old photo. Second is that it's even stated that he got his permission from his granddad, what more do you need ? Just my opinion.

                            Anyway Dr2, like everyone have said, it's a private keeper for this one. Keep shooting though, and try to see if your granddad has a shot of the acft from the side.
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                            • #15
                              John,

                              I don't think there annoyed about him uploading a shot taken by his Grandad, presuming he's been allowed as he says - I think there more annoyed that he's uploaded a shot that has been rejected, that he hasn't even taken then comes on the forums saying it's bullshit and whats the screener on...

                              Some people really need to get a grip. Yeah I used to get annoyed when shots were rejected but now I do it as a hobby, I upload what shots I think might have a chance and if they get rejected then there rejected, so what? For people to come on being like this is childish!

                              JP is one of the most leniant sites I upload to. They don't reject your shots because of the weather or because theres a single jaggie in the shot, or even ban you for making a cock up of the cloning of a dust spot.

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