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    Hello,

    can someone explain me what's too soft about this?
    I appealed and asked screener to be more specific but it got rejected again without any specification.



    Thanks for your feedback,
    Joop

  • #2
    With the greatest respect, are you being serious? That is very, very clearly soft. Look at the leading edge of the vertical stabiliser, the KLM titles, the cockpit windows, the cabin windows... The whole image is soft and the rejection is absolutely 100% right!

    Paul
    Seeing the world with a 3:2 aspect ratio...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PMN View Post
      With the greatest respect, are you being serious?

      Paul
      Paul I think Joop is being serious otherwise why would he put one off his photos up for scrutiny do not forget that sharpness or lack of can be quiet subjective when coming to a reason to reject...even if there are very obvious examples that may have to be rejected at first glance.
      In my opinion the photo is soft mainly forward of the sixth cabin window(except the "Royal Dutch Airlines"titles)where it looks like some selective sharpening was carried out also the far wing and near side engine look a tad soft.
      What struck me Joop on first glance is the contrast issues with the photo.
      A nice composition(which this photo is) and timing does not always mean acceptance Joop the A,b,c, etc of editing still apply.IMHO nothing that cannot be fixed here Joop.

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      • #4
        Well I have to agree with Paul. The senior who screened the appeal probably didn't provide an explanation because the rejection reason given by the first screener says it all: The photo is soft, plain and simple. Now while many photos that appear soft can be fixed by applying more sharpness in postprocessing, this one might be a lost cause as in my point of view it is actually blurry. In addition, I can see some dust spots in the sky and the color seems slightly off as well.

        Definitely one for the personal collection I'm afraid!

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        • #5
          Hi all,

          thanks for your feedback.
          Initially this shot was rejected for being dark so I tried to lighten it up.
          Now it's got rejected for being soft.. No big deal, but again in my appeal I always ask politely based on what, iow give an example, and ask for constructive feedback.
          So when I appeal I would like to have a descent answer to my question, doesn't have to be a long story..
          Anyway, I try to fix some stuff and otherwise it will be one for the personal gallery.

          Joop

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          • #6
            Joop if the appeal was rejected without comment than the original rejection reason was correct so there is no need for comment. She is soft and imo to much contrast and cut off.
            You should get many more chances to catch this one at AMS in the nearby future
            “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

            Erwin

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shanwick View Post
              Paul I think Joop is being serious otherwise why would he put one off his photos up for scrutiny do not forget that sharpness or lack of can be quiet subjective when coming to a reason to reject...even if there are very obvious examples that may have to be rejected at first glance.

              IMHO nothing that cannot be fixed here Joop.
              I think the vast majority of experienced photographers, be it aviation or otherwise would agree this image is very much on the soft side. It is indeed subjective, but only to a point. Sharpness either exists or it doesn't, and sadly, here it doesnt.

              I have to disagree with it being fixable as well. I can't imagine any amount of processing will sharpen this image to JP standards; it's already starting to look a tad oversharpened in places. Sometimes you nail it, sometimes you don't. In the case of this image it wasn't nailed, it happens to us all!

              Paul
              Seeing the world with a 3:2 aspect ratio...

              My images on Flickr

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PMN View Post
                I think the vast majority of experienced photographers, be it aviation or otherwise would agree this image is very much on the soft side. It is indeed subjective, but only to a point. Sharpness either exists or it doesn't, and sadly, here it doesnt.

                I have to disagree with it being fixable as well. I can't imagine any amount of processing will sharpen this image to JP standards; it's already starting to look a tad oversharpened in places. Sometimes you nail it, sometimes you don't. In the case of this image it wasn't nailed, it happens to us all!

                Paul
                Paul where did I say the image was not soft and here I would go along with "the vast majority of experienced photographers".
                The thing I may be wrong on is that it is fixable(just my opinion) I did not try..I just about have enough time to do my own
                With ref.to your last line " In the case of this image it wasn't nailed, it happens to us all"
                I meant to say something akin to that in my original post.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shanwick View Post
                  Paul where did I say the image was not soft and here I would go along with "the vast majority of experienced photographers".
                  You didn't directly, but saying sharpness is subjective gently implied it. My apologies for any misunderstanding.

                  Paul
                  Seeing the world with a 3:2 aspect ratio...

                  My images on Flickr

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