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Ryan, I was the first screener to look at this and decided to vote reject (after accepting some of your other shots) because while no more oversharpened than the rest, the effects show far more on this particular shot. Look at the titles, the oversharpening has made them appear very jagged and harsh which wasn't the case on your other images (even though they were all slightly oversharpened and overexposed).
You can't apply the same editing techniques to every image because they're all slightly different. Certain things show up much more on some images than others, so try pick out things like the very close titles on the AA OneWorld and make sure they don't look oversharpened.
As for worth an appeal being worth it, personally as a rejecting screener I'd say no because it's very evident the image is in fact oversharpened but I'm sure it can be made acceptable if you tone the sharpening down a touch.
Hiya Paul,
Thank-you for response, ill have another try with a different image. As on that one the jaggies were there out of camera.
Just by roughly how much were the other images overexposed?
Thanks
RT
Just by roughly how much were the other images overexposed?
Really not much at all, perhaps less than a third of a stop. Just enough to notice but not enough to warrant a rejection by any means. Maybe try just holding back by a notch or two when you brighten, but the main thing is try get the sharpening looking a bit cleaner.
I have to say though, overall I've been very impressed with what you've been uploading recently. It's in a totally different league to what you were producing a couple of months ago so whatever you're doing differently is working very, very well. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Paul,
I will reign down the brightness a touch on the next stream of edits. The recent success is called winter and sun lol. (Give up photography in summer, it's so much better in winter.)
I've just started playing with different sharpening techniques, It''s mindfield how same process different tool complete different effect.
Thanks again Paul.
RT
Thanks Paul,
I will reign down the brightness a touch on the next stream of edits. The recent success is called winter and sun lol. (Give up photography in summer, it's so much better in winter.)
I've just started playing with different sharpening techniques, It''s mindfield how same process different tool complete different effect.
Thanks again Paul.
RT
The funny thing is the more you know and understand the less the light actually matters and the less a lack of it intimidates you. You can't control how much light you have but you can adjust what you do according to the conditions. That sounds really stupid I know, but as an example I never, ever think "I'm editing a cloudy photo" or "I'm editing a bright sunny photo". I might be a bit more depressed while editing the cloudy one but I'm not actually thinking about the fact the conditions are different! The simple reason I never think about it is all the things that apply to sunny photos apply equally to cloudy ones; you just have to 'see' beyond the change in conditions. In both cases you still want accurate exposure, accurate white balance, sharpness and clarity, so if your principle aim is to get those then the conditions are actually largely irrelevant. This is the reason I don't understand people who only ever shoot in perfect weather and say shots in cloud always look crap. If you know what you're doing then they don't look crap at all. Granted, it's a personal choice which one prefer but I'd always advise not shying away from certain conditions. The more difficult the conditions you shoot in, the more you'll learn and the better a photographer you'll be.
A kind of analogy could be drawn in music, and as a bassist I'll use bass guitar as an example. I know some bassists who have great instruments and are quite good players, but being in a 'comfort zone' they can't play anything else. If you give them a shitty second hand beaten up 15 year old Squire Precision they're screwed; they can't play it because they just see a beaten up shitty bass instead simply seeing another instrument to play music on. Other players who still have great instruments will play that shitty beaten up bass and still make it sound awesome. I kind of see weather in a similar way. Some photographers see a cloud in the sky and don't go out because shooting in perfect light is a lot easier, whereas to me the clouds simply don't matter. They just make getting what you want a little more awkward but by no means impossible.
Anyway, talking about shooting, if the conditions really are that bad there's always the pub!
Right, I'm gonna stop talking crap and go put the kettle on.
Always a laugh to read your posts Paul.
With cloud I've found there is a line and today was the line I think F/8 at 1/80 to me is call this a bloody day weather, and then go home and sulk.
You'll be relieved to know I'm not going to try editing today's round, given there all awful lol.
RT
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Right, I'm gonna stop talking crap and go put the kettle on.....
The KETTLE ??....for a drink ?????
Paul, you're slipping.
Ryan.
Paul spoke of about 1/3 stop overexposure. If it helps, I tend to underexpose by .33 to .75 of a stop to retain highlight detail and give me something to work with in PS. Not enough to cause grain if I have to brighten it up a bit but enough to give some "working space". BTW, I use aperture priority,ISO 100 and around f8 to f10 with a VR lens letting the shutter speed do its own thing and only upping the ISO to 200 if the shutter speed drops a bit low.
paul's comment on the oversharp titles holds very true with AA aircraft and the like where the title letters are close together. Another example of this is with the Star Alliance marked aircraft where the letters are very thin. It's so very easy to oversharpen these. I normally sharpen for the titles, create a background layer and further sharpen for the body and engine cowls and then erase over the titles and flatten.
I also echo Paul's comment on how the quality of your recent shots has improved. Keep it up.
If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !
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