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  • Help, I'm confused!

    I wanted to upload some pics of PH-AJU.

    Doing so, I get the message; "Please use actual registration NC39165"?!

    What does that mean and where do I have to fill this in?

  • #2
    In the registration field.....assuming you are talking about the KLM painted DC2 ?
    PH-AJU is a display registration, the actual reg is NC39165.
    If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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    • #3
      Brian is totally correct. The real reg of the Aviodrome DC-2 is NC39165.
      JetPhotos.com is the biggest database of aviation photographs with over 5 million screened photos online!

      So if you use this reg for autofill all the correct info will show up.
      “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

      Erwin

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      • #4
        Where would I be without you guys!

        Thanks!

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        • #5
          By the way, is it a specific category too?

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          • #6
            vintage/warbird is needed for this DC-2
            “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

            Erwin

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            • #7
              Thanks again Erwin!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
                In the registration field.....assuming you are talking about the KLM painted DC2 ?
                PH-AJU is a display registration, the actual reg is NC39165.
                Well...the actual registration would simply be N39165, the "C" has been meaningless since the early '50s. In fact, the "C" is just as correct as the PH-AJU painted on the side, both are just decoration...

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                • #9
                  Technically...yes you are correct. The aircraft is on the US register as N39165 but many vintage US registered aircraft carry the NC prefix as lip service to their age and the registration type in use at the time of manufacture.
                  Remember that JP is an aviation database, as are most other similar sites. Just about every major database site that I can find records the registration as NC39165.
                  Here in the UK we have a lot of US registered vintage aircraft (mostly Boeing Stearmans !) carrying the NC prefix.
                  If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                  • #10
                    From the FAA
                    "
                    The FAA no longer issues numbers beginning with "NC", "NX", "NR", or "NL". On some older aircraft, these registration prefixes may be displayed in accordance with FAR 45.22."

                    FAR 45.22
                    Exhibition, antique, and other aircraft: Special rules.

                    (a) When display of aircraft nationality and registration marks in accordance with Secs. 45.21 and 45.23 through 45.33 would be inconsistent with exhibition of that aircraft, a U.S.-registered aircraft may be operated without displaying those marks anywhere on the aircraft if:
                    (1) It is operated for the purpose of exhibition, including a motion picture or television production, or an airshow;
                    (2) Except for practice and test fights necessary for exhibition purposes, it is operated only at the location of the exhibition, between the exhibition locations, and between those locations and the base of operations of the aircraft; and
                    (3) For each flight in the United States:
                    (i) It is operated with the prior approval of the Flight Standards District Office, in the case of a flight within the lateral boundaries of the surface areas of Class B, Class C, Class D, or Class E airspace designated for the takeoff airport, or within 4.4 nautical miles of that airport if it is within
                    Class G airspace; or
                    (ii) It is operated under a flight plan filed under either Sec. 91.153 or Sec. 91.169 of this chapter describing the marks it displays, in the case of any other flight.
                    (b) A small U.S.-registered aircraft built at least 30 years ago or a U.S.-registered aircraft for which an experimental certificate has been issued under Sec. 21.191(d) or 21.191(g) for operation as an exhibition aircraft or as an amateur-built aircraft and which has the same external configuration as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with Secs. 45.21 and 45.23 through 45.33 if:
                    (1) It displays in accordance with Sec. 45.21(c) marks at least 2 inches high on each side of the fuselage or vertical tail surface consisting of the Roman capital letter "N" followed by:
                    (i) The U.S. registration number of the aircraft; or
                    (ii) The symbol appropriate to the airworthiness certificate of the aircraft ("C", standard; "R", restricted; "L", limited; or "X", experimental) followed by the U.S. registration number of the aircraft; and
                    (2) It displays no other mark that begins with the letter "N" anywhere on the aircraft, unless it is the same mark that is displayed under paragraph (b)(1) of this section.
                    (c) No person may operate an aircraft under paragraph (a) or (b) of this section--
                    (1) In an ADIZ or DEWIZ described in Part 99 of this chapter unless it temporarily bears marks in accordance with Secs. 45.21 and 45.23 through 45.33;
                    (2) In a foreign country unless that country consents to that operation; or
                    [(3) In any operation conducted under Part 121, 133, 135, or 137 of this chapter.]
                    (d) If, due to the configuration of an aircraft, it is impossible for a person to mark it in accordance with Secs. 45.21 and 45.23 through 45.33, he may apply to the Administrator for a different marking procedure.
                    [SIGNATURE GOES HERE]

                    Felipe Garcia

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                    • #11
                      I knew that.....
                      If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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