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  • Alex - Spot-This !
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    Account is now deleted as requested.

    Regards
    Alex

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  • Trainferry
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  • brianw999
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    ..but no mention of the work I just did to try to help you. Thanks a bunch.

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  • PMN
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    Originally posted by Trainferry View Post
    You decided to not show my picture on the site, so why I would give you the right to show it now? It's important to know that this is my photo, as you rejected it, you do not have any right to decide to show it. If you want to show it: accept the photo. I know enough of the legal part of photography to know I'm the photographer and I can decide to show it or not.

    I do admit my reaction was childish, but if I ask to delete my photo, that's something you need to respect. It stays my property.
    You're confusing the screening process and ownership. In uploading to JP you're granting the site a non-exclusive license to display the image, that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with ownership and the image remains your property whether it's accepted or rejected. It is, however, JP's decision as to what images are displayed on the site. Just because you're the legal owner of an image doesn't mean you have the right to have it accepted onto the site.

    If you're unhappy with the way JP works then there are countless other options available for you to share your images online. I'm a screener here but I still absolutely love uploading to my aviation Flickr page as I love the freedom to do as I please, I also enjoy the process of uploading to JP. It's really about choosing the outlet that suits your needs the most but one thing's for sure, stamping your feet and blaming everyone else for the fact your photo is blurry won't help anyone, least of all yourself.

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  • Trainferry
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    You decided to not show my picture on the site, so why I would give you the right to show it now? It's important to know that this is my photo, as you rejected it, you do not have any right to decide to show it. If you want to show it: accept the photo. I know enough of the legal part of photography to know I'm the photographer and I can decide to show it or not.

    I do admit my reaction was childish, but if I ask to delete my photo, that's something you need to respect. It stays my property.

    Last but not least: is asked that much to undo my account? I'm not willing to accept your standards anymore, because they're just far to high.

    I did respect you by removing my reaction, as (once more) childish, so please give me my life back by removing my account (This is not your fault, but I feel really depressed as I understand that I'll not that good in photography, the only thing to express myself...I have autism)

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  • LX-A343
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    A) Shows us blurrier photos than yours. We know what panning technique is, as shown above by dlowwa.

    B) As I have a fair share of know-how in legal matters, I am particularly interested to see, how we "don't have any legal right to share it [the rejected photo] with public". Just a hint: your first reasoning ...
    Originally posted by Trainferry View Post
    And yes: if you decide to reject a photo, you don't have any legal right to share it with public, this is only the photographers decisions. So you need to remove the link in the forum, as I did not gave permission to share. I'm only willing to accept to share my accepted photos.
    ... is bollocks.

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  • brianw999
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    Originally posted by Trainferry View Post
    I understand: I'll throw away my camera. I'm worth nothing as I'm a loser!

    I knew I'm not good at any thing.
    In that case, I'd better throw my gear away as I just got a rejection for blurry as well, even though I have over 6,000 in the database.

    I initially thought when I looked at your shot in thumbnail form, and before I knew what the rejection reason was "This is going to be blurry". And I was right. I took it into Photoshop and sharpened it with quite a lot of sharpen tool. The right side of this image shows the difference. Blur cannot be fixed but this could possibly be just soft and therefore fixable. Trouble is , the sharpening has also introduced grain.....

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  • brianw999
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    As far as I am aware your rejected images are only viewable to JP crewmembers. They are not, as far as I know publicly available.

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  • Trainferry
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    The only thing about the situation that makes me angry, is the truth. I saw photos that were blurrier than this one. The background is blurry as I used the panning technique.

    And yes: if you decide to reject a photo, you don't have any legal right to share it with public, this is only the photographers decisions. So you need to remove the link in the forum, as I did not gave permission to share. I'm only willing to accept to share my accepted photos.

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by Trainferry View Post
    Oh yes 1 more thing: it seems that you never heard f the word panning... I'm not the only 1 thinking like this about your site. A lot of photographers told me that people here think they're the greatest photographers.

    But I understand: I'll throw away my camera. I'm worth nothing as I'm a lser!
    ..sigh...

    1. Panning shots, when well executed can look great. Unfortunately, yours was not that well executed, resulting in a soft/blurry aircraft, yet a not quite blurry background (a good panning shot will typically be under 1/100 shutter speed). There is nothing to be ashamed at not quite getting it right, it takes lots of practice before you are usually able to obtain stellar results. Even now, I usually end up deleting something like 90% of my attempts at panning.

    2. Claiming to have 2nd/3rd hand info about what people think about the site isn't necessarily the strongest support for your case. That would be like me saying "I know some guys who think Trainferry is...". Who cares (or even knows if it's true) what some other people think? I'll form my opinion of you based on first-hand experience only, thank you, I probably it would be best if you do as well. How many crew or experienced uploaders have you heard directly say "I'm the greatest photographer"? Not that many, if any at all, I guess.

    3. Nobody is suggesting you throw away your camera, nor that you are a loser, or worth nothing. Those are only your own words. Of course everyone is disappointed when their images are rejected, but this site does have standards to maintain. All we ask is that you try to look objectively (as difficult as it may be) at your own images, and seek unbiased advice from your peers. If you had done that, perhaps you would have seen the rejection in question was justified.

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    Originally posted by Trainferry View Post
    Also remove my rejected photo! As it was rejected by you, people do not have the legal right to enjoy my picture!
    Well, you submitted it for acceptance, which means thousands of people would have potentially seen it. Now you wish that they don't, simply because it was rejected? Why would that be, especially if you think the rejection was unjustified? Wouldn't you want everyone to see it, to be able to judge for themselves?

    Take a little time, cool down, and try to look at things a little more objectively - then perhaps you will see you are not so aggrieved as you think. Their is a community of support available here, but you have to be open-minded and willing to take advice to take full advantage of it.

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  • Trainferry
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    I understand: I'll throw away my camera. I'm worth nothing as I'm a loser!

    I knew I'm not good at any thing.
    Last edited by brianw999; 2017-12-18, 11:17.

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  • CO777/200
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    Originally posted by Trainferry View Post
    The answer is simple: your site doesn't deserve my pictures!


    This is the stupiest post of the year!

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