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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by aceriana View Post
    Yesterday I appealed a photo. The appeal was rejected.
    I had asked 3 spotters to observe the photo and I stressed to look at the fuselage if it is white and of course the whole photo.
    All confirmed the fuselage is 99% white (based on conformity with the white nose cone). And the rest of the photo is fine with correct colors in the right place. They said the rejection was bogus.
    Therefore I appealed with high hopes.

    I honestly think the color cast problem is being blown out of proportion. I have over 1.300 photos accepted and have not faced such a complex problem with my photos before.
    All my errors over time have been fixed in acceptance of the rules. But now I am really lost. I am struggling to fix the issue.
    It is me vs you and simply what our error filled eyes say. It is not 100% objective like an unlevel horizon or a dust spot.
    It is making my editing of photos, not a fun relaxing moment - but a moment of tension and frustration.

    Has something changed in the screening process? Is it more severe now? Am I the only one with record breaking amount of rejections because of color cast?
    There are countless ways of eliminating the color cast with Photoshop. This is by far the easiest... but it appears not to satisfy the screeners.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kkuejgUaBw
    We've gone over this before, but if you feel it needs re-visiting, I can try and lay it out for you. I screen more images than anyone, and yes it is pretty much just you. As you have not seen anyone else complaining about such rejections here in the forum you can take that as another clue. There are maybe 2-3 guys (out of the thousands who upload regularly) whose images I can easily identify without looking at the names attached simply by the color casts. I've also been in touch with one of them, and unsurprisingly, he also has issues with perceiving colors correctly. There is unfortunately not much else I can suggest, else I would have done so before. You know you have issues with color perception, so I fail to see why you continue to get worked up when encountering rejections for the same. It is not 'me vs. you' as you state, it is you vs. almost everyone else. I checked the appealed image you mentioned, and it was seen by no fewer than three different screeners who all agreed there was a color cast.

    I'm not going to say any more in the matter, as I think it would be best if you simply moved on and admitted the problem is on your side; admitting there is a problem is usually the first step in solving it. Unfortunately you keep coming back and trying to plead your case that the problem is not yours.

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  • aceriana
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    Yesterday I appealed a photo. The appeal was rejected.
    I had asked 3 spotters to observe the photo and I stressed to look at the fuselage if it is white and of course the whole photo.
    All confirmed the fuselage is 99% white (based on conformity with the white nose cone). And the rest of the photo is fine with correct colors in the right place. They said the rejection was bogus.
    Therefore I appealed with high hopes.

    I honestly think the color cast problem is being blown out of proportion. I have over 1.300 photos accepted and have not faced such a complex problem with my photos before.
    All my errors over time have been fixed in acceptance of the rules. But now I am really lost. I am struggling to fix the issue.
    It is me vs you and simply what our error filled eyes say. It is not 100% objective like an unlevel horizon or a dust spot.
    It is making my editing of photos, not a fun relaxing moment - but a moment of tension and frustration.

    Has something changed in the screening process? Is it more severe now? Am I the only one with record breaking amount of rejections because of color cast?
    There are countless ways of eliminating the color cast with Photoshop. This is by far the easiest... but it appears not to satisfy the screeners.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kkuejgUaBw

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by aceriana View Post
    Can you also check these please - perhaps TC-LJI is better here than in my previous post

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]22080[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]22081[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]22082[/ATTACH]
    Color should be ok; slight heat haze on the first.

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  • aceriana
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    Can you also check these please - perhaps TC-LJI is better here than in my previous post

    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCLJI_IST_14lug2018_TOff_v2.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	1.12 MB
ID:	1033163
    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCOBL_IST_14lug2018_TOff.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	964.4 KB
ID:	1033164
    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCJMK_IST_14lug2018_TOff.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	1.02 MB
ID:	1033165

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  • aceriana
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    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCLJI_IST_14lug2018_TOff_v2.jpg
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ID:	1033161

    Is that naughty green cast also here? Narrowing down the problems - almost there with hopefully the color solution.
    Sorry for the trial and error but I am trying my best

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by aceriana View Post
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]22077[/ATTACH]

    Is this photo OK for upload?
    Especially framing and eventual color issues?
    Framing is fine. There is a slight green/cyan cast.

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  • aceriana
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    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCJRA_IST_14lug2018_TOff.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	988.2 KB
ID:	1033160

    Is this photo OK for upload?
    Especially framing and eventual color issues?

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  • aceriana
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    Hey Fellas
    I think I have solved the issue of color cast / hue. Yes I know it sounds unbelievable given my record breaking amount of rejections.
    But it is quite a simple solution that gives me 99% true color vs color casts that I had before.

    Thanks for your patience and reject away if the problem is still there...

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  • Alex - Spot-This !
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    All your recent rejections have the same very visible green cast. Do you use auto-tone or auto-colour ?

    Example of the one where the green is the worst

    JetPhotos.com is the biggest database of aviation photographs with over 5 million screened photos online!

    JetPhotos.com is the biggest database of aviation photographs with over 5 million screened photos online!

    JetPhotos.com is the biggest database of aviation photographs with over 5 million screened photos online!

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7125820 - plane is supposed to be white, yours is green here.

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  • LX-A343
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    Originally posted by aceriana View Post
    Hey fellas.... I thought this photo (TC-LJL) was OK for upload and now rejected (along with 17 others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) because of bad color - my nemesis
    Do I win a consolataion prize for so many rejections?
    Without showing us a rejected photo, it will be a look into the crystal ball.

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  • aceriana
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    Originally posted by Alex - Spot-This ! View Post
    as it's a different pic that's why it got rejected - a reupload should be of the same pic, better edited

    This one looks better than the accepted one, would you like me to delete it so you can upload the better picture ?
    Hey fellas.... I thought this photo (TC-LJL) was OK for upload and now rejected (along with 17 others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) because of bad color - my nemesis
    Do I win a consolataion prize for so many rejections?

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  • aceriana
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    Originally posted by meneses24 View Post
    They look acceptable for me
    Great news. Thanks

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  • meneses24
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    Originally posted by aceriana View Post
    Here are two photos adjusted to "fix" the color cast issue. In your expert opinion is the cast resolved?

    ORIGINAL SU-GEB (rejected)
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]21988[/ATTACH]

    MODIFIED SU-GEB
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]21989[/ATTACH]

    ORIGINAL TC-JSY (rejected)
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]21990[/ATTACH]

    MODIFIED TC-JSY
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]21991[/ATTACH]

    Keeping my fingers crossed this might be the solution.
    They look acceptable for me

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  • aceriana
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    Here are two photos adjusted to "fix" the color cast issue. In your expert opinion is the cast resolved?

    ORIGINAL SU-GEB (rejected)
    Click image for larger version

Name:	SUGEB_IST_14lug2018_TOff.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	1.02 MB
ID:	1033085

    MODIFIED SU-GEB
    Click image for larger version

Name:	SUGEB_IST_14lug2018_TOff_v2.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	1.05 MB
ID:	1033086

    ORIGINAL TC-JSY (rejected)
    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCJSY_IST_14lug2018_TOff.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	1.02 MB
ID:	1033087

    MODIFIED TC-JSY
    Click image for larger version

Name:	TCJSY_IST_14lug2018_TOff_v2.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	1,011.9 KB
ID:	1033088

    Keeping my fingers crossed this might be the solution.

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by aceriana View Post
    Roger... got that. So it is the whole frame.
    Wow.

    Is there any chance you / we can open a Thread for spotters who have this color blindness issue? It might be a good place to exchange ideas and help.
    I have been digging around and cannot find a "tool" that helps me - besides having someone sit next to me when I edit photos - much to their boredom.
    Feel free to open such a thread, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to contribute too much to it myself.

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