aceriana - editing advice

[aceriana]

Very bad weather, very bad light, classic traffic... a bad combination.

Well now Alex, let's not go overboard. That day the weather was not so bad at all. I have been in pea soups and I know when the combo of very bad weather, very bad light applies.
Northern Italy is very famous for fog during winter and hazy days in summer.
As I said the situation was sun behind and flimsy clouds in front. Perhaps if I get my act together on contrast they can be fixed? Or as soon as you see them in the queue you will be like a shark smelling blood in the water?

[Alex - Spot-This !]

Very bad weather, very bad light, classic traffic... a bad combination.

Please remember that not everything should be uploaded to JP and a poorly lit grey plane in front of a grey sky are definitely a big risk of rejections. Please keep those for your personal collection

and yes very visible haloes caused by NIK, again never use NIK for planes in the sky.

Hope it helps

Alex

[aceriana]

If you look at the left side of the histogram, there is a clear lack of blacks.

I fix whites and blacks right away, using Threshold and Curves. Then if any flat spots remain in the histogram I fix that with Levels.
All this was done. Vinicius says to increase contrast - but that is leaving me somewhat boggled.

[iad.spotter]

I know I was expecting halos given I used Nik (color efex pro) as per my previous erros of over processing and I was expecting that. But I am not sure about these concerning contrast.

If you look at the left side of the histogram, there is a clear lack of blacks.

[aceriana]

Hey Alberto,

Because of the background and poor weather there is a lack of contrast/black in the photos (see the left side from the histogram). Also after equalize the photos I see there is big halos around the a/c.

Vinicius

I know I was expecting halos given I used Nik (color efex pro) as per my previous erros of over processing and I was expecting that. But I am not sure about these concerning contrast.

[vcruvinel]

Hey Alberto,

Because of the background and poor weather there is a lack of contrast/black in the photos (see the left side from the histogram). Also after equalize the photos I see there is big halos around the a/c.

Vinicius

[aceriana]

aceriana - editing advice

Hello Everybody

From one issue to the next
These photos were taken on a somewhat cloudy afternoon - eek!! that already sounds like a big issue.
But the clouds were in front of me, behind the aircraft as they landed. The sun was behind me with some clouds passing by.
By no means a pea soup day.

I was much expecting my antagonized error - over processed / bad processing - but this surprises me.

https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6345045

https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6345041

Is it all due to... clouds?

[Mr Chips]

Hello Dave
Thank you for the positive words. I truly enjoy posting my photos here and sharing them with other aviation enthusiasts. I have tried my best over the years to improve.
Halos have been my constant problem which comes and goes. I will once again try to refine my process hoping to avoid this issue.

When I see spotters like you that have thousands of images uploaded I feel like such a dwarf amongst giants and think I will never even come close to such goals.
I sure hope we all find a good solution and in no way am I blaming the screeners for my errors. I know rules are rules and I truly enjoy the JetPhots website.

Thanks again

Well we all have to start off somewhere and to be honest, you have over 800 images in the database which is no mean feat

Image editing is a constant learning process for all of us, even those of us with 1000's of images in the database. Your ability to learn from mistakes whilst constantly striving for better editing processes demonstrates you have a bright future ahead of you as an uploader here (or anywhere else for that matter).

As mentioned, using Color Efex Pro isn't particularly advisable, sometimes just a simple editing workflow works the best.

[aceriana]

The smart sharpen tool works perfectly fine for me. If need be you can work with layers and masks to give a part of the plane an extra dose of sharpening.

OK Stefan, I will try the sharpen tool and not use Nik and compare results.
Though I must admit that dosing Nik with great prudence does work well as I tested last night.

[seahawk]

The smart sharpen tool works perfectly fine for me. If need be you can work with layers and masks to give a part of the plane an extra dose of sharpening.

[aceriana]

Why would you use NIK in the first place? You can get such images to an acceptable standard simply using levels, curves and sharpening in photoshop. Everything more just increases your chance of an overproc. rejection. Less is better when it comes to editing.

Hello Stefan and Alex
I have used the Jid workflow for many years.
However after seeing a few Angelo Bufalino YouTube videos, I found the sharpening aspect of Nik clearer for my small brain.
I agree that perhaps a degree of excess was being used, but I tried a more soft approach last night and no halos.
If you have some alternative CS6 only sharpening options that are understandable, please let me know.

[Alex - Spot-This !]

Just like Stefan suggested, NIK collection should be avoided. Specially on sunny shots without any background. I would only recommend using it for pics taken in not so good light and when the plane has some background to work with. Also remember that NIK applies automatic compression to the sky which could cause issues as well.

Alex

[seahawk]

Why would you use NIK in the first place? You can get such images to an acceptable standard simply using levels, curves and sharpening in photoshop. Everything more just increases your chance of an overproc. rejection. Less is better when it comes to editing.

[aceriana]

Alberto,
Do you apply any filter to your photos on processing ?

Regards
Alex

Hello to all

First of all thank you to Vinicius for his patience and to the screeners for their support.
I performed some tests last night with a few of the rejected photos and I have come to the following conclusion, which is 100% my fault.
I use CS6 and Nik. However when applying filters such as Color Efex Pro, my negative control points were too far from the plane and not close enough.
I began from scratch and re-processed a few of the rejected photos applying the negative control points as close to the aircraft as possible.
I then checked the equalization and no halos. This might be the trouble I was facing, sloppy positioning of the control points in Nik.

Thanks again to everyone

[crisquijano]

Hey Vinicius... thanks for the link for the tips. I really needed to improve on the halos