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    Hi,

    I recently got into photography (5 months ago) with the intention of doing aviation photography as a hobby.
    This past Sunday i snapped the attached photo at Manchester Airport and tried uploading to the site.
    Because the aircraft doesn't currently have a photo on FR24 it went straight to screening.
    However the photo was rejected for the following reasons.

    • Bad Composition (bad framing / aircraft not centered)
    • Undersharpened (Soft)
    • Backlit



    I have tried to correct the image twice but it seems to be creating more problems than solutions.
    Does anyone have any advice on how to solve these three issues?
    Is there any tutorials that can help me edit my photos better?

    Thank you all!

  • #2
    Originally posted by rf22aviationphoto View Post
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    Hi,

    I recently got into photography (5 months ago) with the intention of doing aviation photography as a hobby.
    This past Sunday i snapped the attached photo at Manchester Airport and tried uploading to the site.
    Because the aircraft doesn't currently have a photo on FR24 it went straight to screening.
    However the photo was rejected for the following reasons.

    • Bad Composition (bad framing / aircraft not centered)
    • Undersharpened (Soft)
    • Backlit



    I have tried to correct the image twice but it seems to be creating more problems than solutions.
    Does anyone have any advice on how to solve these three issues?
    Is there any tutorials that can help me edit my photos better?

    Thank you all!
    Hi! First of all, welcome!

    This photo is backlit so unfortunately it can not be fixed. You need to take photos with the sun behind you (direct in the aircraft). The best way to start is to read the JP Guidelines to upload the photos: https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...ES-New-version

    If you need any other help/assistence just send a message here, including about editing the photos.

    Regards,

    Vinicius

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    • #3
      Originally posted by vcruvinel View Post
      Hi! First of all, welcome!

      This photo is backlit so unfortunately it can not be fixed. You need to take photos with the sun behind you (direct in the aircraft). The best way to start is to read the JP Guidelines to upload the photos: https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...ES-New-version

      If you need any other help/assistence just send a message here, including about editing the photos.

      Regards,

      Vinicius
      Thank you for the reply.

      That's a shame, was literally a toss up of where to go on Sunday. If i went to the other area i would have been alright.

      In terms of under sharpened; how can i fix that? when i edit in lightroom/photoshop the sharpness quickly creates too much noise.
      The lens i was using was a Canon 75-300mm, could it be possibly my lens isn't up to standard?

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      • #4
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        What about this one? still considered backlit?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rf22aviationphoto View Post
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          What about this one? still considered backlit?
          Hello.

          Yes it is still Backlit. A good indicator is the shadow of the tail: If the the tail casts a visible shadow on the shown side of the fuselage itīs Backlit.
          As Vinicius said, Please have a look to our Guidelines and into this thread: https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...Info+Uploaders!
          There are tons of Informations that are helpful to get your images accepted.

          A good Tutorial is that from Mohammed Zaheer, a JP Uploader and Youtuber from UK. His Videos helped me a lot at the Beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0mpFOHOXJU
          If you had any Questions, feel free to ask!


          Thank you and have a good night!
          Last edited by Julian S.; 2018-05-08, 20:26.
          Best Regards from Germany,
          Julian S.​

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Julian S. View Post
            Hello.

            Yes it is still Backlit. A good indicator is the shadow of the tail: If the the tail casts a visible shadow on the shown side of the fuselage itīs Backlit.
            As Vinicius said, Please have a look to our Guidelines and into this thread: https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...Info+Uploaders!
            There are tons of Informations that are helpful to get your images accepted.

            Thank you and have a good night!
            Thank you.

            Is there anything else wrong with it or is it just backlit?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rf22aviationphoto View Post
              Thank you for the reply.

              That's a shame, was literally a toss up of where to go on Sunday. If i went to the other area i would have been alright.

              In terms of under sharpened; how can i fix that? when i edit in lightroom/photoshop the sharpness quickly creates too much noise.
              The lens i was using was a Canon 75-300mm, could it be possibly my lens isn't up to standard?
              You area welcome. About the others points:

              1. The best way is to use the "smart sharpen" if your software is Photoshop. To each photo I change the parameters...but if you want I can send my default configurations.
              2. I think the problem is not your lens, maybe your camera settings. The photo did not have the EXIF available (or my software didn't show). If you post your parameters I can try to help you too.

              Vinicius

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rf22aviationphoto View Post
                Thank you.

                Is there anything else wrong with it or is it just backlit?
                Yes, the image is soft, not corrected centered, too low in frame...But backlit is the main problem, the others are easy to fix.

                Vinicius

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by vcruvinel View Post
                  You area welcome. About the others points:

                  1. The best way is to use the "smart sharpen" if your software is Photoshop. To each photo I change the parameters...but if you want I can send my default configurations.
                  2. I think the problem is not your lens, maybe your camera settings. The photo did not have the EXIF available (or my software didn't show). If you post your parameters I can try to help you too.

                  Vinicius
                  Yes please send me your configurations, im currently using 80% and 1.0.

                  What is the EXIF? i shoot in raw but then transfer into JPEG once i've finished editing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by vcruvinel View Post
                    Yes, the image is soft, not corrected centered, too low in frame...But backlit is the main problem, the others are easy to fix.

                    Vinicius
                    Thank you.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rf22aviationphoto View Post
                      Yes please send me your configurations, im currently using 80% and 1.0.

                      What is the EXIF? i shoot in raw but then transfer into JPEG once i've finished editing.
                      IMHO 1.0 is too much. Normally I use 0.2 or 0.4, depending on the situation.

                      EXIF is the Exchangeable image file format. The EXIF specifies the formats for images and tag the informations in the file (exposure, aperture, ISO...). You can find in the left side when you open the RAW Converter in PS or in the same side in Lightroom.

                      Vinicius

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by vcruvinel View Post
                        IMHO 1.0 is too much. Normally I use 0.2 or 0.4, depending on the situation.

                        EXIF is the Exchangeable image file format. The EXIF specifies the formats for images and tag the informations in the file (exposure, aperture, ISO...). You can find in the left side when you open the RAW Converter in PS or in the same side in Lightroom.

                        Vinicius
                        Thanks. Do you use around 80% also?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rf22aviationphoto View Post
                          Thanks. Do you use around 80% also?

                          It also depends on the situation. If the image has a good quality I apply less sharpness (just because the image will get oversharpened). I start with 50% and increase if necessary. Also you can see the preview in the dialog box from the smart sharpen tool to see how your photo will look like before apply. But the main things are the camera settings and a good light (remember do take the photo with the sun behind you ). If you do this a basic editing workflow will work well.

                          if you need any assistance with the editing process I can help you (with topics I know, of course!)


                          Vinicius

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                          • #14
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                            Hi,

                            Please can someone provide feedback on the below image.
                            What changes would be needed to get through screening?

                            Thank you.


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                            • #15
                              Unfortunately no changes are possible to be accepted... Backlit ruins it as the sun is behind and the plane is in the shadow.
                              Please try to take pictures having sun behind your back.

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