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  • #16
    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    The horizon is literally unlevel..

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    Ok thanks, will fix. BTW I used the runway as reference when I first edited it.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Runway28L View Post
      Ok thanks, will fix. BTW I used the runway as reference when I first edited it.
      With a horizon in the photo, use this. The runway will never be a reliable reference.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by LX-A343 View Post
        With a horizon in the photo, use this. The runway will never be a reliable reference.
        Ok. Thanks
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        • #19
          Hey guys, I had this rejection that I'm confused with.
          https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/5/28515_1541828568.jpg

          Rejected for: Similar photo uploaded

          Yes I did upload the following photo (https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8843179) that had the same registration and location, except that image was uploaded nearly 10 months ago, and it's of a different angle. I thought it would be big enough of a time gap to avoid such a rejection.

          I've uploaded some registrations twice from the same location and I never got this rejection. So I'm just curious as to how this is a problem now.

          Please don't take offense. This is the first time I've had this rejection and I honestly don't know much about the rule so an explanation would help so I could avoid this rejection in the future. Thank you for your time!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Runway28L View Post
            Hey guys, I had this rejection that I'm confused with.
            https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/5/28515_1541828568.jpg

            Rejected for: Similar photo uploaded

            Yes I did upload the following photo (https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8843179) that had the same registration and location, except that image was uploaded nearly 10 months ago, and it's of a different angle. I thought it would be big enough of a time gap to avoid such a rejection.

            I've uploaded some registrations twice from the same location and I never got this rejection. So I'm just curious as to how this is a problem now.

            Please don't take offense. This is the first time I've had this rejection and I honestly don't know much about the rule so an explanation would help so I could avoid this rejection in the future. Thank you for your time!
            There is no hard/fast rule, but for a similar angle & background like this, we'd be looking more for something like a minimum 3-4 years separation to not be considered similar.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
              There is no hard/fast rule, but for a similar angle & background like this, we'd be looking more for something like a minimum 3-4 years separation to not be considered similar.
              Ok understood. Thank you!
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              • #22
                Lack of Consistency regarding Dark/Underexposed

                This is something that hasn't really been much of a thing to worry about during my time uploading here. But now it has become such a serious issue over the past few weeks (and especially the past several days) that I feel like I need to post about it.


                I've recently been hit with several dark/underexposed rejections. I did not agree with the decisions so I appeal all of them, and won. This image the other day however was rejected for the same reason. Appealed and stated my case, and it ended up getting rejected again, with the following comment: "the photo is underexposed, lacks midtones and highlights".
                Photo in question: http://www.jetphotos.com/viewreject_b.php?id=6997225


                Then I would like to ask... How is this not an issue at all with the bottom four taken minutes prior to the one above? Exposure and color settings were similar, if not identical for all four plus the one above. All five images were taken within 35-40 minutes apart from the same location, in the same conditions. Plus I cannot help but feel my re-edit of the Southwest is too bright after re-uploading it despite only adding 10%.
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9170682
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9169938
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9169190
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9163857 (this too got rejected for dark/underexposed but it was added on appeal)






                And then these two just today:
                https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7005330
                https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7005331


                Again, both rejected initially for dark/underexposed. Appealed the Southwest and got rejected again with the comment: “shadows are lacking details here”. Yet these three other images below were all accepted with no issues, all taken within a 30 minute period from the EXACT same location on the same day, including the two rejected. The histogram is nearly identical across all five. Actually, the KC-135 is actually the brightest of the five and somehow that one ended up getting rejected still.
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9173694
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9173708
                https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9174747


                This is just two cases out of many that I have faced where I upload a batch that were taken minutes apart, in identical conditions, and there will almost always be some accepted, and some getting hit with “dark/underexposed" despite matching settings and the histograms being exact across all the images.


                I've tried my best to just deal with it and re-upload. But this is starting to hit a high point of frustration as I have never had this problem anywhere else but here, as I upload to other sites including JP. I completely understand that different sites have different standards, but I still think a degree of consistency here regarding this rejection reason is severely lacking and it needs to be addressed now. And to be brutally honest, the vague explanations are really of no help whatsoever. I truly like uploading here (even more so now that the queue was recently shrunk), but this is beginning to negatively affect the overall experience.
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                • #23
                  Hi,
                  The 3 rejections you're showing all have a clear underexposure of mid-tones which is confirmed by histogram.

                  Every single pic needs its own editing and aviation pics should never be processed in batches. Your camera's electronic is going to react differently on every single pics with little variation of speed, light, hand shaking etc.... Here the SouthWest scheme "eats" parts of the luminosity and it requires you adjust the midd tones.

                  Hope it helps
                  Merry Xmas

                  Alex

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Alex - Spot-This ! View Post
                    Hi,
                    The 3 rejections you're showing all have a clear underexposure of mid-tones which is confirmed by histogram.

                    Every single pic needs its own editing and aviation pics should never be processed in batches. Your camera's electronic is going to react differently on every single pics with little variation of speed, light, hand shaking etc.... Here the SouthWest scheme "eats" parts of the luminosity and it requires you adjust the midd tones.

                    Hope it helps
                    Merry Xmas

                    Alex
                    Hi, Alex. Happy holidays to you.

                    Totally understand your explanation regarding the camera and how it reacts differently. That's something I usually try my best to be aware of. Although by "batch", I meant images all taken on the same day and not necessarily a bunch that I edited all at once. I usually only edit 1-3 images per day and add them to the queue rather than say, edit 10 and upload all of them at the same time. It would be too hard to focus on each one's settings at once plus I simply don't have the time available to do that.

                    The only issue I have is the histogram of the majority of those images are identical and I even went back and forth across several of those images to make sure the brightness was consistent across all of them, especially if they were taken within a short amount of time (I do try to be aware of the time of day and the difference in lighting conditions). And it ended up with some passing and some not. If say, all of those were rejected for dark/underexposed, that's one thing. I would've probably recognized something was wrong with every image and would have gone back, removed all of them, and made all of them brighter to re-upload. But the fact that the first few I uploaded passed led me to believe the rest were fine and there wasn't much to worry about, as I believed exposure was consistent amongst all of them. I will also add... on this site, it seems like I get "graded" the hardest on brightness and contrast when my images get screened. The vast majority of the rejections I get are dark/underexposed or too much/little contrast. Who knows, maybe that's just something I need to watch for more closely when I'm editing images to upload here, but that's just a trend I've observed.

                    I'll go back and make the second Southwest and the 135 brighter and re-upload making note of the changes. I already fixed the first Southwest and it's currently in my queue.

                    Thank you for taking the time to reply back!
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