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  • a.m.
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    1. borderline overprocessed
    2-4 overprocessed, borderline contrast/color
    Thx dlowwa

    I'm struggling a little bit, with the borderline contrast/color issue.
    Is this because of a clear visible border line , usually in white/clear color ?
    or because a sky color not much different from the plane colors ?

    Here's a version with no editting whatsoever.... just convert raw to jpeg and resize to 1280.
    Does this shows/manifests borderline contrast/color ?

    One other question, is this problem usually workable with processing ? or is better to move to another picture ?

    thanks again for your time and help

    /rgds
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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx dlowwa

    how about these ?

    /rgds
    1. borderline overprocessed
    2-4 overprocessed, borderline contrast/color

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  • a.m.
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    Looks acceptable to me.
    Thx dlowwa

    how about these ?

    /rgds
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  • dlowwa
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    Looks acceptable to me.

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  • a.m.
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    I would actually advise less editing is the way to go, since overediting is what is causing you problems already.



    A touch dark, but otherwise ok.
    Thx dlowwa

    #I would actually advise less editing is the way to go, since overediting is what is causing you problems already.

    I see. Which make all the sense... the photo should stands by itself and not because of good PS skills... but a bit of sharpen is always needed
    Anyway, I'm starting to apply another type of workflow... after selecting the sharpen photos out of the camerea. I apply then then crop and resize to jpg .... no additional processing.
    If the end result isn't reasonable, I don't consider it.

    I start to see that the halos and low contrast can be already there out of the camera...so it's very difficult to correct them and other issues later.
    One other thing is the compression / jpeg artifacts.... that can be more visible or not... just because you crop one bit left or rigth.
    Sometimes, just changing the aspect ratio 3:2 / 16:9... will introduce /reduce artifacts.

    So, yeh, it's an adventure to get the best end result.


    How about now, enough light ?

    thx again

    /rgds
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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx. Probably I need to start working with layers, isolating the plane and working on new tons,colours just in the sky.
    I would actually advise less editing is the way to go, since overediting is what is causing you problems already.

    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    how about this one ?
    A touch dark, but otherwise ok.

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  • a.m.
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    No, still low contrast. Editing halos also more visible now.
    Thx. Probably I need to start working with layers, isolating the plane and working on new tons,colours just in the sky.

    how about this one ?

    /rgds
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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    any better ?
    No, still low contrast. Editing halos also more visible now.

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  • a.m.
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    any better ?
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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx dlowwa

    how about this one ?

    /rgds
    Low contrast.

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  • a.m.
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    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    1. borderline (low) contrast/compression
    2. ok
    Thx dlowwa

    how about this one ?

    /rgds
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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx dlowwa

    How about these two ?

    /rgds
    1. borderline (low) contrast/compression
    2. ok

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  • a.m.
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    Thx dlowwa

    How about these two ?

    /rgds
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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    BTW, is there any way to identify Hallos, other the naked eye ? an histogram ? any specific functions ?
    The fact is I'm having problems identify it... the way I may find it is when applying any processing I can see a kind of glow around the image...
    If you can see a glow, those are halos.


    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    Unfortunately I can't use 1920, just 1280px wide images, and reducimg a 20/24MPIXEL image to 1Mpixel... does introduced so artifacts.
    So what do you recommend to reduce compression artifacts/jagged lines , other than the Blur filter step ?
    Offcourse, sometimes the compression algorithms works better : colors, sharpness and planes logos/letthering all get sharp and clean, so there's no need for the blur step.
    If you reduce the images correctly, and save at max quality, compression should not be an issue, whether it's at 1920, 1280, or 1024.


    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
    What you think of these, new spot new angle, less processing
    1. borderline dark/contrast, and slightly low in frame
    2. ok
    3-4 soft, color, overprocessed (very strong halos)

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  • a.m.
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    Thx dlowwa, lx-a343, Alex


    #Clarity is a known cause of halos, as is D-lighting mode in Nikon cameras. Any adjustment to boost shadows or reduce highlights can often cause halos.
    Ok, I'll try to avoid any additonal processing.

    BTW, is there any way to identify Hallos, other the naked eye ? an histogram ? any specific functions ?
    The fact is I'm having problems identify it... the way I may find it is when applying any processing I can see a kind of glow around the image...


    #That is a lot of post processing in my opinion. BTW: The auto mode in 2) is also known to create halos.
    #what an incredible complicated workflow :

    I couldn't agree more, I went to youtube and tried to learn what thecniques were recommended for aviation photos editing, so I've end up with that
    Ok, I'm simplifying it now ...

    Unfortunately I can't use 1920, just 1280px wide images, and reducimg a 20/24MPIXEL image to 1Mpixel... does introduced so artifacts.
    So what do you recommend to reduce compression artifacts/jagged lines , other than the Blur filter step ?
    Offcourse, sometimes the compression algorithms works better : colors, sharpness and planes logos/letthering all get sharp and clean, so there's no need for the blur step.


    What you think of these, new spot new angle, less processing

    thanks you all again, for your comments and help

    /rgds
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