pre-screen photos at dawn

[a.m.]

These images are all backlit as well.

Portugal does not have special lighting conditions, any more than Spain, Italy, Greece, Japan, the U.S., or anywhere else along the same latitude. The images are backlit due to the angle of the aircraft in relation to you and the sun. Regardless of the sun's position to you, it is on the other side of the aircraft in relation to you, so the aircraft are mostly in shadow. This is most easily confirmed by looking at the tail, which is in shadow for all of these examples. None of these images would ever be accepted here, as this cannot be fixed by editing. You will simply need to go back and take new images at a different time of day or different location when the sun is on the same side of the aircraft as you.



Make sure that the color profile for your working space matches your browser's default color space (usually sRGB) to ensure the colors match.

Thx dlowwa

#Regardless of the sun's position to you, it is on the other side of the aircraft in relation to you, so the aircraft are mostly in shadow.
Ok.

what's is good angle to the plane ? 90º

looking at this foto (out of the camera, no touch) everything seems to be well exposed well. I see no shadows,
and the sun is the same side as me... not 90º, but probably 30.

#None of these images would ever be accepted here,
Sure, I have no problems with that, I'm just tried to figure out the rules of the game.
In this airport we have spots , left and rigth of the runway, so it's easy to follow the sun. That's not the problem.

#Make sure that the color profile for your working space matches your browser's default color space (usually sRGB) to ensure the colors match.
got it... trying with another browser ..it looks ok... which is good, that means that you are also seeing the correct corrects.

thanks again for your time and help

/rgds

[dlowwa]

TAP colours, like the general colour temperature in Portugal are very strong.... so maybe reducing a bit the saturation could help . What do you thing ?

I'm including a couple more examples... just to confirm.... (well, the problem)

These images are all backlit as well.

Portugal does not have special lighting conditions, any more than Spain, Italy, Greece, Japan, the U.S., or anywhere else along the same latitude. The images are backlit due to the angle of the aircraft in relation to you and the sun. Regardless of the sun's position to you, it is on the other side of the aircraft in relation to you, so the aircraft are mostly in shadow. This is most easily confirmed by looking at the tail, which is in shadow for all of these examples. None of these images would ever be accepted here, as this cannot be fixed by editing. You will simply need to go back and take new images at a different time of day or different location when the sun is on the same side of the aircraft as you.

In the meantime, I've just notice a huge difference between the colour I see and the color that produced after uploading it.
The colour I see is much more light and soft than after updating it

Very strange ...

and yes, I agree, I don't like these colours.

What colour do you see on your screen ? the lighter or the strong one ?

Make sure that the color profile for your working space matches your browser's default color space (usually sRGB) to ensure the colors match.

[a.m.]

In the meantime, I've just notice a huge difference between the colour I see and the color that produced after uploading it.
The colour I see is much more light and soft than after updating it

Very strange ...

and yes, I agree, I don't like these colours.

What colour do you see on your screen ? the lighter or the strong one ?

[a.m.]

This one is backlit. You need to take the photos with the sun behind you, better try another location.

Cheers,

Vinicius

Thx vcruvinel

Well, I really need to understand this technicall stuff, can you provide me some more detail regarding the backlit ? thx

First, can it be corrected is these photos ?
How can we measure/define it ?

There should be more/less contract between plane and sky ?

Photo 3 , as a light sky ? is it better ?

In fact, photo 3 lots the perfect photo to me. All parts of the plane ,below and above are clearly defined and expose . No shadows no highligts
And taking in consideration that the sun was just above the plane, maybe a tidy bit for my side... that's not bad.
( so technically the sun was behind me )

Should the sky be lighter ? the Sky in Lisbon is as strong and blue as in the photo.
The exposure and temperature of the photos is almost as it came from the camera... not much compensation there.

TAP colours, like the general colour temperature in Portugal are very strong.... so maybe reducing a bit the saturation could help . What do you thing ?

I'm including a couple more examples... just to confirm.... (well, the problem)

thanks again for your time and help
/rgds

[vcruvinel]

Thx dlowwa

dark ? ok. got it.
How about this one (new camera, new lens, new spot position) ?

/rgds

This one is backlit. You need to take the photos with the sun behind you, better try another location.

Cheers,

Vinicius

[a.m.]

Images are all dark, and borderline overprocessed.

Thx dlowwa

dark ? ok. got it.
How about this one (new camera, new lens, new spot position) ?

/rgds

[dlowwa]

Thx dlowwa

The compression I believe I can see it... however neither the color, neither the haze. Tried a couple of times... but didn't notice a difference in my edits.
As such, I've applyed a new technique...basically doing all the filtering before cropping...and later applying some of them again.

Since today was cold, shot several new photos in a different angle ... so probably haze and yellow may have gone , who knows

Here's then the catch of the day. (as soon as I finish my tests , I'll go back the previous ones )

Thanks again for your time and help

/rgds
a.m.

Images are all dark, and borderline overprocessed.

[a.m.]

Dear all

Can you be so kind (as usual) and comment this batch ? thx

/rgds

Here's a new editing
/rgds

[a.m.]

All borderline for the same three issues: color (too yellow), compression, and heat haze. First two problems should be easy enough to fix.

Thx dlowwa

The compression I believe I can see it... however neither the color, neither the haze. Tried a couple of times... but didn't notice a difference in my edits.
As such, I've applyed a new technique...basically doing all the filtering before cropping...and later applying some of them again.

Since today was cold, shot several new photos in a different angle ... so probably haze and yellow may have gone , who knows

Here's then the catch of the day. (as soon as I finish my tests , I'll go back the previous ones )

Thanks again for your time and help

/rgds
a.m.

[dlowwa]

Dear all

Can you be so kind (as usual) and comment this batch ? thx

/rgds

All borderline for the same three issues: color (too yellow), compression, and heat haze. First two problems should be easy enough to fix.

[a.m.]

Dear all

Can you be so kind (as usual) and comment this batch ? thx

/rgds

[a.m.]

2. borderline oversharpened/overprocessed
4. ok

Thx dlowwa

Photo 2, wasn't the best one to start with.
A bit darker, overcast, taken with lots of haze @45ºc/113ºF.
The above border line, probably was the result of applying a mask/processing just to the sky. Probably needed some additional sharpner/halo work.

Ok now I start to understand the sentence : "Photoshop can make miracles".

thanks again for your time and help

/rgds

[dlowwa]

How about this new version ?

2. borderline oversharpened/overprocessed
4. ok

[a.m.]

How about this new version ?

[a.m.]

1. dark, heat haze, compression
2. soft, overprocessed (pretty strong editing halos)

Thx dlowwa

All the sins in the Universe and a couple more I believe ..

/rgds