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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    Dear JP Form
    Again I like to ask your advice vor pre-screening. Sometimes I see these nice pictures in the evening mood with sunglear and even sometime backlight. I really like these ones. That's why I want to ask you if any of the following pictures has a chance to get accepted.
    What is the rule for backlight-sunset view's?


    [ATTACH=CONFIG]25077[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]25078[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]25079[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]25080[/ATTACH] (Halo?)

    Thanks in advance.

    John
    1. contrast, noise
    2. overprocessed, contrast, cut off
    3. ok
    4. vignetting, overprocessed, dirty

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  • john1024
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    Dear JP Form
    Again I like to ask your advice vor pre-screening. Sometimes I see these nice pictures in the evening mood with sunglear and even sometime backlight. I really like these ones. That's why I want to ask you if any of the following pictures has a chance to get accepted.
    What is the rule for backlight-sunset view's?


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    Thanks in advance.

    John

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    Dear Community
    I like to recive pre-screning advice: What could be an issue by following 4 pictures:
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24928[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24929[/ATTACH]
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    thanks a lot in advance for feedback.
    First two bit soft, but generally ok; third looks like some kind of filter on the sky; last one heat hazed/compressed.

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  • john1024
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    Dear Community
    I like to recive pre-screning advice: What could be an issue by following 4 pictures:
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    thanks a lot in advance for feedback.

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    May I ask you again for your pre-screning opinion:

    3 pictures from the former airport of Athen:[ATTACH=CONFIG]24222[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24223[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24224[/ATTACH]

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    John
    Obstruction on the first, and last a bit soft. Otherwise would be ok for me.

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  • john1024
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    May I ask you again for your pre-screning opinion:

    3 pictures from the former airport of Athen:Click image for larger version

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    Thanks in advance for your help.

    John

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  • john1024
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    Originally posted by LX-A343 View Post
    The easiest way is to equalize the photo in your photo editor. This one looks OK, no halos to see.
    Thanks, I found the bug in the editing.

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  • LX-A343
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    It was in the queue to make the halo visible. Now I deleted it, hope to receive your advice. I do not know how to check for the halo except than upload it to JP and tehn check for dust. That's why I uploaded it.

    thanks for your great help already.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24075[/ATTACH]
    The easiest way is to equalize the photo in your photo editor. This one looks OK, no halos to see.

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  • john1024
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    It was in the queue to make the halo visible. Now I deleted it, hope to receive your advice. I do not know how to check for the halo except than upload it to JP and tehn check for dust. That's why I uploaded it.

    thanks for your great help already.

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  • LX-A343
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    Thanks dlowwa and LX-A343

    Now I think i got the error, these time seems to be fine,
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7283370

    What do you think? It should pass without halo? Any other thing I have to pay attention?

    Danke

    John[ATTACH=CONFIG]24074[/ATTACH]
    As you already have it in the queue, we won't pre-screen it anymore.

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  • john1024
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    Thanks dlowwa and LX-A343

    Now I think i got the error, these time seems to be fine,
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7283370

    What do you think? It should pass without halo? Any other thing I have to pay attention?

    Danke

    JohnClick image for larger version

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    Hi JP Forum

    I need help for understanding the halo. I got all my last submission rejection due to halo (Over Processed / Bad postprocessing, Visible editing halos.), https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7282543 .

    What I understand from the guidelines the halo appears a a result of too much sharpening at the edge. I took all the pictures at the same day, same lens (Canon 100-400) in RAW.

    Now I edited one of them (no sharpening, only adjusting the levels/curves iin Lightroom an exported. When I check again for dust there are the halos visible still. In the attachment I put the screenshot of the comparison from 'chek for dust with marks what my understanding of halo is) and the picture with no sharpening, only adjusting the curves.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24070[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24071[/ATTACH]

    thanks for helping me.

    john
    Three most common culprits are de-haze, clarity, and shadow/highlight adjustments. Try setting all those to zero and see what happens.

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  • LX-A343
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    Hi JP Forum

    I need help for understanding the halo. I got all my last submission rejection due to halo (Over Processed / Bad postprocessing, Visible editing halos.), https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7282543 .

    What I understand from the guidelines the halo appears a a result of too much sharpening at the edge. I took all the pictures at the same day, same lens (Canon 100-400) in RAW.

    Now I edited one of them (no sharpening, only adjusting the levels/curves iin Lightroom an exported. When I check again for dust there are the halos visible still. In the attachment I put the screenshot of the comparison from 'chek for dust with marks what my understanding of halo is) and the picture with no sharpening, only adjusting the curves.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24070[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24071[/ATTACH]

    thanks for helping me.

    john
    Halos can't just be produced ba sharpening settings. There are many ways to get halos, such as using D-lighting in some Nikon cameras, auto-adjusting features (auto-colour, ...), shadow/highlights in Photoshop, and so on.mbest would be to post here all your editing steps detailed.

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  • john1024
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    Hi JP Forum

    I need help for understanding the halo. I got all my last submission rejection due to halo (Over Processed / Bad postprocessing, Visible editing halos.), https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7282543 .

    What I understand from the guidelines the halo appears a a result of too much sharpening at the edge. I took all the pictures at the same day, same lens (Canon 100-400) in RAW.

    Now I edited one of them (no sharpening, only adjusting the levels/curves iin Lightroom an exported. When I check again for dust there are the halos visible still. In the attachment I put the screenshot of the comparison from 'chek for dust with marks what my understanding of halo is) and the picture with no sharpening, only adjusting the curves.

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    thanks for helping me.

    john

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    For one of my last nightshot I got a rejaction because to dark (https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7236182). After advice from the forum I started the whole develop process again and came up with these:[ATTACH=CONFIG]23976[/ATTACH].

    Would it be likely to get accepted? Thanks for helping me.
    Looks like you actually have a DOF issue. Tail is in focus, but the nose is not. In the first image the tail is ok, but the nose is quite soft. In the newer version the nose is better (still a bit soft), but the tail is oversharpened now. Not sure you will be able to fix this with editing.

    Originally posted by john1024 View Post
    Thanks dlowwa

    May I ask your advice again, would these edit be better?[ATTACH=CONFIG]23977[/ATTACH]

    Why was it too dark? How am I able to decide? The histogram looked for me fine the first time, and I had the feeling the image too dark was for me representing the situation as I had in memory when I was taking the picture.
    Histogram can be a good guide for certain things, but can also be tricky for aviation photography (especially for a database such as this), as it represents the whole image, whereas we're usually focused more just on the aircraft. The histogram may look balanced if the sky is well lit, but if the aircraft is much darker or in shadow, it still wouldn't be acceptable for here. The exposure should be fine on your new edit, but as I just stated, since the light is mostly in the sky rather than the aircraft, I'd still consider it borderline for contrast.

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