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  • #31
    Hi Community

    I would appreciate some feedback on the below pictures. I have just bought a new camera and have applied my normal workflow to these images but want to see if this is too much / too little / just right for the new camera given the step up in camera quality.



    Thanks for your feedback
    Chris

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Chrislait View Post
      Hi Community

      I would appreciate some feedback on the below pictures. I have just bought a new camera and have applied my normal workflow to these images but want to see if this is too much / too little / just right for the new camera given the step up in camera quality.



      Thanks for your feedback
      Chris
      Maybe a touch soft and some light editing halos visible, but otherwise should be ok.

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      • #33
        Hi Community

        I hope you can help because I need it at the moment! I'm getting way too many rejections and need to know what I can do to fix them.

        These are some of my rejections this week .. can I please get some guidance on a) what was wrong with them, and b) how can they be fixed, if at all.

        1. https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7048737 (Too much / too little contrast)
        2. https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7048735 (Too much / too little contrast)
        3. https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7048734 (Too much / too little contrast)
        4. https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7048697 (Too much / too little contrast & Over Processed / Bad post processing)
        5. https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7048688 (Over Processed / Bad post processing)
        6. https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7048736 (Backlit .. although I don't believe this is overly backlit)

        Thank you for your feedback .. its much appreciated!

        Chris

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        • #34
          Hi Chris, I'm not a screener but I can give you a small insight (better wait for a screener to really confirm)

          1. Borderline contrast/backlit: Fuselage is not well lit (Toplit in this case)
          2. Same as 1, but not as serious I do think increasing contrast a little bit (maybe 10) would help
          3. Low light on the fuselage so borderline contrast
          4. Again, toplit and editing halos visible (happens when you use dehaze, shadow or highlight in post-processing)
          5. Also editing halos
          6. Backlit is obvious here, so yeah there are no chances really.

          To avoid halos, I would recommend using black & white if you do have Camera Raw Filter on Photoshop, or if you are using shadow or highlight most of the time then you can read #4 of this
          https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...ips-and-tricks

          For toplit photos I think you should look for photos that the tail fin is properly lit. You should have more chances

          This is just some of my opinions and insights only! The screener's opinion matters more.

          Hope that you have a great day mate!

          DK

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Chrislait View Post
            These are some of my rejections this week .. can I please get some guidance on a) what was wrong with them
            All taken in backlit (or nearly backlit conditions), and all have editing halos - although the halos are much less prominent in the images that weren't rejected for overprocessing.

            Originally posted by Chrislait View Post
            and b) how can they be fixed, if at all.
            The halos can be removed if you reprocess the images from the raw files without using whichever feature (shadow/highlights, clarity, vibrance, etc..) that caused them. The marginal/poor lighting can only be 'fixed' by shooting in better light conditions next time.

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            • #36
              Thanks guys for your feedback. I'll take these on board and see if I can sort out the issues i've had lately .. and maybe get a few more accepted!

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              • #37
                Hi all

                Just after a little bit of help with these 3 pictures ..

                Emirates A380 - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7092917 This one has been rejected twice now for being Soft. I thought I fixed it after the first time but obviously not. Any advice on where it is soft would be appreciated so I can fix.

                Same for this one ..

                REX SABB340 - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7092942 . This is the first rejection but I want to get it right before I re-upload.


                Qantaslink Q400 - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7095309 . This one has been rejected for Over-processed.


                Thanks for your help
                Chris

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                • #38
                  Hi,
                  Emirates is still really too soft. I believe it's most probably improvable via the correct sharpening settings. What is your sharpening technic ?
                  Saab is also too soft, tail almost looks blurry and I'm not sure you can make it sharp
                  Q400 has some light and dark halos around, probably due to some settings on editing (maybe you're using some auto editing instead of manual settings ?)

                  Hope it helps
                  Alex

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                  • #39
                    Thanks Alex

                    Do you think these are any better?





                    Thanks

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Chrislait View Post
                      Thanks Alex

                      Do you think these are any better?





                      Thanks
                      First still soft, second should be acceptable.

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                      • #41
                        Hi Team

                        Can I please seek clarification on these rejections? All have been rejected for "Similar Photo Uploaded"

                        Singapore Airlines - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7113352 - I can only assume this is being compared to this one - https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9217388 which, while the same rego and date was taken a number of hours apart. The plane in the database is on landing and the other is clearly a belly shot on take off so I am not sure how these are the same?

                        Cebu Pacific - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7113359 - I can only assume that it is being compared to this one as it is the only other image I have of this aircraft - https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9217389. Like the Singapore above, taken hours apart. The one in the database is on take off, the one rejected is landing.

                        Is "Similar Photo Uploaded" simply a case of I can't upload any photo off an aircraft more than once if its on the same day regardless of what is going on in the shot?

                        Can you please review and provide some guidance on these? I'm not looking to complain .. I actually would like to know so I can learn what "similar" in the eyes of the screeners looks like so I can make sure I don't have this issue again.

                        Thanks for your help

                        Chris

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Chrislait View Post
                          Hi Team

                          Can I please seek clarification on this rejection?

                          https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7113357

                          Was rejected for "Similar photo uploaded" which I appealed as I don't think I do have a similar photo in the database .. this too was rejected.

                          Can you please review and let me know which photo is thought to be similar to this one? I'm not looking to complain .. I actually would like to know so I can learn what "similar" in the eyes of the screeners looks like so I can make sure I don't have this issue again.

                          Thanks for your help

                          Chris
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9217397

                          Images literally taken with seconds of each other.

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                          • #43
                            OK, Thanks. I understand the timing issue however I thought that they would be considered different given the angles on them.

                            Guess not. Thanks for clarifying for me. I'll be more strict with my uploads.


                            Can you please confirm the issues with the Singapore and Cebu Pacific as well for me?


                            Thanks again.
                            Chris

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Chrislait View Post
                              Hi Team

                              Can I please seek clarification on these rejections? All have been rejected for "Similar Photo Uploaded"

                              Singapore Airlines - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7113352 - I can only assume this is being compared to this one - https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9217388 which, while the same rego and date was taken a number of hours apart. The plane in the database is on landing and the other is clearly a belly shot on take off so I am not sure how these are the same?

                              Cebu Pacific - https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7113359 - I can only assume that it is being compared to this one as it is the only other image I have of this aircraft - https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9217389. Like the Singapore above, taken hours apart. The one in the database is on take off, the one rejected is landing.

                              Is "Similar Photo Uploaded" simply a case of I can't upload any photo off an aircraft more than once if its on the same day regardless of what is going on in the shot?

                              Can you please review and provide some guidance on these? I'm not looking to complain .. I actually would like to know so I can learn what "similar" in the eyes of the screeners looks like so I can make sure I don't have this issue again.

                              Thanks for your help

                              Chris
                              The SQ you could argue is not that similar and you would have a case, but whoever screened made the subjective decision that the images were too similar. I would not have voted so, but I couldn't promise you would win an appeal. The Cebu on the other hand is nearly an identical angle/composition (regardless of phase of flight), and I would have rejected that as well.

                              Basically you should be able to get four images of an aircraft accepted on any given day - one from each side on the ground, and one from each side in the air. This is why the two Virgin are obviously similar - same side, same sequence, within seconds of each other. Getting more than one image per phase of flight (i.e. in the air/on the ground) means the images have to be significantly different, and of course not from the same sequence. The Cebu are a different sequence, but subjectively very similar. The SQ is the only borderline one. Same phase of flight, but different sequence, and I would agree different enough angle/composition.

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                              • #45
                                No problem. I understand. Thanks for clarifying this for me. That will be a big help when selecting which images I look to upload.

                                I will appeal the SQ when I am able to again (locked out for 24 hours as I appealed the Virgin - but now know better on that one) and I'll see how I go. Worst case is its rejected again

                                Thanks again
                                Chris

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