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    Hi, just asking for some pre-screening advice as I have a rather high rejection rate. Does the amount of cloud affect acceptance rate? On a recent trip I have plenty of photos but do any of them stand a chance with cloudy conditions?

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    Thank you in advance
    Adam

  • #2
    Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
    Does the amount of cloud affect acceptance rate?
    It affects the contrast of the image. If the sky is overcast, you'll need to adjust the contrast (rule of thumb: rejections are usually for "too little"), but quite often the image just can't be salvaged.

    I'm not a screener / JP team member, so will leave screening of your photos up to them.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jvdl View Post
      It affects the contrast of the image. If the sky is overcast, you'll need to adjust the contrast (rule of thumb: rejections are usually for "too little"), but quite often the image just can't be salvaged.

      I'm not a screener / JP team member, so will leave screening of your photos up to them.
      I'll bear that in mind, thank you

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
        Hi, just asking for some pre-screening advice as I have a rather high rejection rate. Does the amount of cloud affect acceptance rate? On a recent trip I have plenty of photos but do any of them stand a chance with cloudy conditions?

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        Thank you in advance
        Adam
        Hello! I am not screener but ...
        1. dark / contrast , soft
        2. dark
        3.borderline contrast / dark
        4. borderline soft and bad composition (too low in frame)
        5. contrast

        1,2,3 have no concert (bad light)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
          Hi, just asking for some pre-screening advice as I have a rather high rejection rate. Does the amount of cloud affect acceptance rate? On a recent trip I have plenty of photos but do any of them stand a chance with cloudy conditions?

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          Thank you in advance
          Adam
          Would all be rejected for:

          1-3 soft, noise, contrast
          4 soft, centering
          5 blurry, cropping

          Images taken in poor light will invariably be more difficult to get accepted.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
            Would all be rejected for:

            1-3 soft, noise, contrast
            4 soft, centering
            5 blurry, cropping

            Images taken in poor light will invariably be more difficult to get accepted.
            For 1-3 this is my edit for number 2 (only doing one until I'm on the right tracks)
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            Instead of number 5, here's a new photo but it has increased contrast, sharpened further and noise reduced (same batch of photos as 1-3)
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
              For 1-3 this is my edit for number 2 (only doing one until I'm on the right tracks)
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              Here's number 4
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              Instead of number 5, here's a new photo but it has increased contrast, sharpened further and noise reduced (same batch of photos as 1-3)
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              As explained, please limit yourself to 5 photos per 24h. Thank you.
              My photos on Flickr www.flickr.com/photos/geridominguez

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                Would all be rejected for:

                1-3 soft, noise, contrast
                4 soft, centering
                5 blurry, cropping

                Images taken in poor light will invariably be more difficult to get accepted.
                For 1-3 this is my edit for number 2 (only doing one until I'm on the right tracks)
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                Here's number 4
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                Instead of number 5, here's a new photo but it has increased contrast, sharpened further and noise reduced (same batch of photos as 1-3)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
                  For 1-3 this is my edit for number 2 (only doing one until I'm on the right tracks)
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                  Here's number 4
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                  Instead of number 5, here's a new photo but it has increased contrast, sharpened further and noise reduced (same batch of photos as 1-3)
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                  1: dulll/dark and slightly blurry, soft
                  2: still too low in the frame, did you change anything at all?
                  3: dark/dull, lacks contrast and soft
                  My photos on Flickr www.flickr.com/photos/geridominguez

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LX-A343 View Post
                    1: dulll/dark and slightly blurry, soft
                    2: still too low in the frame, did you change anything at all?
                    3: dark/dull, lacks contrast and soft
                    1,3 So when you say dark/dull is that a brightness issue? When I hear dull, I can't change that by editing can I? That's to do with the weather conditions, right. It appears that all my photos are soft, I really don't know what I'm looking for, I've done camera raw filter then high pass filter, and that's still not sharp enough, if I go any higher with the sharpening then there's more noise, more noise means more noise reduction which means less detail or have I got it all wrong?

                    When I edit this is what I do
                    Lightroom
                    1. Angle correction (horizon)
                    2. Crop
                    3. Spot deletion

                    Photoshop
                    1. Camera raw filter sharpen and reduce noise
                    2. High pass filter
                    3. Trim curves histogram

                    Everytime I go through brightness, contrast, exposure and all of that, I get carried away and end up with illuminous grass, I'm certainly not an expert when it comes to editing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
                      1,3 So when you say dark/dull is that a brightness issue? When I hear dull, I can't change that by editing can I? That's to do with the weather conditions, right. It appears that all my photos are soft, I really don't know what I'm looking for, I've done camera raw filter then high pass filter, and that's still not sharp enough, if I go any higher with the sharpening then there's more noise, more noise means more noise reduction which means less detail or have I got it all wrong?

                      When I edit this is what I do
                      Lightroom
                      1. Angle correction (horizon)
                      2. Crop
                      3. Spot deletion

                      Photoshop
                      1. Camera raw filter sharpen and reduce noise
                      2. High pass filter
                      3. Trim curves histogram

                      Everytime I go through brightness, contrast, exposure and all of that, I get carried away and end up with illuminous grass, I'm certainly not an expert when it comes to editing.
                      I would start with shooting in better light. If you're happy with the images you take in dull (flat) light, that's great, but don't expect to have too much success submitting them here. There are a combination of factors that could be leading to the softness, but rather than trying to fix them with editing, I'd be looking at trying to prevent them in the first place. As the old adage goes, quality in - quality out.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                        I would start with shooting in better light. If you're happy with the images you take in dull (flat) light, that's great, but don't expect to have too much success submitting them here. There are a combination of factors that could be leading to the softness, but rather than trying to fix them with editing, I'd be looking at trying to prevent them in the first place. As the old adage goes, quality in - quality out.
                        So ultimately if I want success here I need to be shooting in good light (sunshine) and with a better camera, we had this conversation before, I'm looking at a Sony A33, Nikon D3200 or a Canon 550D. Would the sharpness option on my camera do anything major? I think it's always been set at normal, I've set it to +2 now and next time I go spotting I'll let you know what the results are.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
                          So ultimately if I want success here I need to be shooting in good light (sunshine) and with a better camera, we had this conversation before, I'm looking at a Sony A33, Nikon D3200 or a Canon 550D. Would the sharpness option on my camera do anything major? I think it's always been set at normal, I've set it to +2 now and next time I go spotting I'll let you know what the results are.
                          I never mentioned better camera. I don't know what you're currently using, and as I said above, all of the problems with the above images stem from shooting in poor conditions. A 'better' camera would likely do little to remedy that.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                            I never mentioned better camera. I don't know what you're currently using, and as I said above, all of the problems with the above images stem from shooting in poor conditions. A 'better' camera would likely do little to remedy that.
                            Nikon D50 made 2005 - max res 3000x2000, 6 megapixels, iso 200-1600, shutter 1/4000 - 30s
                            I have 2 photos on JP from a day with good lighting, should I prescreen the other photos here?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Adam Quinn View Post
                              Nikon D50 made 2005 - max res 3000x2000, 6 megapixels, iso 200-1600, shutter 1/4000 - 30s
                              I have 2 photos on JP from a day with good lighting, should I prescreen the other photos here?
                              As mentioned, if you decide to take photos in poor light conditions, not even a full frame top notch 20k+ USD worth of equipment will bring you acceptable photos.
                              My photos on Flickr www.flickr.com/photos/geridominguez

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