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  • kevinrclemmonsphoto
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    Originally posted by 777MAN View Post
    Hi Kevin, I was one of the screeners who rejected the image.

    Dark yes, as to obstruction/clutter I understand your point however the guidelines say

    3.5 Obstruction/Clutter

    This means that the aircraft is not fully visible due to it being obstructed by anything from long grass to catering trucks.
    Items of ramp equipment must not obscure any of the aircraft, including stairs, aerobridges etc. Exceptions may be made if the equipment forms part of the motive of the shot, such as in use de-icing equipment, or if the angle of the shot means only a small part of the aircraft is obstructed, such as ground power units/cargo loading devices.

    regards T
    Ahh, okay! Cannot believe I missed that! Makes perfect sense now! Thank you so much!

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  • 777MAN
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    Originally posted by kevinrclemmonsphoto View Post
    Dear Screeners,


    Question regarding a recent rejection(https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7390680). So besides being underexposed(which after seeing, I absolutely agree 100%, I went a little crazy with the de-hazing tool), the other reason was "Obstructing Objects / Foreground Clutter". I was under the impression that having other objects in the photo would be acceptable if the composition was meaningful. I can see what the screener was talking about in terms of other objects as I have indicated by the red arrows.
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    My intent was to tell a story with that photograph. The story being that this airplane was arriving from Munich and that airport vehicles were starting to swarm to prepare it for its next journey. So with that being said, are photographs of airliners and airport operations acceptable? If so, what should I be looking for next time when I take a photo like that?

    Any thoughts/feedback?
    Hi Kevin, I was one of the screeners who rejected the image.

    Dark yes, as to obstruction/clutter I understand your point however the guidelines say

    3.5 Obstruction/Clutter

    This means that the aircraft is not fully visible due to it being obstructed by anything from long grass to catering trucks.
    Items of ramp equipment must not obscure any of the aircraft, including stairs, aerobridges etc. Exceptions may be made if the equipment forms part of the motive of the shot, such as in use de-icing equipment, or if the angle of the shot means only a small part of the aircraft is obstructed, such as ground power units/cargo loading devices.

    regards T

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  • kevinrclemmonsphoto
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    Originally posted by marc1201 View Post
    Kevin,
    Nice shot of the a350, but again a little low in frame, which probably going to cause a rejection...Like others said, it's important to center the aircraft. Background can be important too, but less..You need to let go the "regular/standard rules" of photography in this hobby.
    Rule of thirds,etc doesn't always apply here..
    And keep in mind, most of us have more photo's rejected than accepted, certainly in the beginning.
    I have definitely learned to let go of the standard rules of photography. Not a bad thing. If anything, I have learned so much through each of my rejections. I have learned how to get a good photo with my camera alone. I am finding myself having to edit less and less in terms of centering, exposure etc and I love how many photographers on this website have created incredible documentation on their post-processing flows! I love photography and I love learning which is why I am on here. The biggest reward is when I get an accepted photograph, knowing that not only did it get accepted but that it also taught me something and therefore contributing to my skills.

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  • kevinrclemmonsphoto
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    Dear Screeners,


    Question regarding a recent rejection(https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7390680). So besides being underexposed(which after seeing, I absolutely agree 100%, I went a little crazy with the de-hazing tool), the other reason was "Obstructing Objects / Foreground Clutter". I was under the impression that having other objects in the photo would be acceptable if the composition was meaningful. I can see what the screener was talking about in terms of other objects as I have indicated by the red arrows.
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    My intent was to tell a story with that photograph. The story being that this airplane was arriving from Munich and that airport vehicles were starting to swarm to prepare it for its next journey. So with that being said, are photographs of airliners and airport operations acceptable? If so, what should I be looking for next time when I take a photo like that?

    Any thoughts/feedback?

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  • 777MAN
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    Originally posted by marc1201 View Post
    Kevin,
    Nice shot of the a350, but again a little low in frame, which probably going to cause a rejection...Like others said, it's important to center the aircraft. Background can be important too, but less..You need to let go the "regular/standard rules" of photography in this hobby. The
    Rule of thirds,etc doesn't always apply here..
    And keep in mind, most of us have more photo's rejected than accepted, certainly in the beginning.
    I’m not on my editing computer atm. So can’t comment on the quality, what I would say tho is that it’s always worth putting in the comment field why you have composed/cropped a certain way. Screeners will read that and make a judgment, sometime we agree, sometimes not.

    We are photographers too with different skill sets/ backgrounds and yes the site has guidelines.

    What I find frustrating are people uploading without looking at the guidelines, not bothering to ask here In the active and informative forum.

    Good on kevinrclemmonsphoto and you for engaging in this way

    Those that upload regardless take up more screeners time to check, when We can be reducing the queue
    Regards T
    Last edited by 777MAN; 2019-06-23, 21:18.

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  • marc1201
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    Kevin,
    Nice shot of the a350, but again a little low in frame, which probably going to cause a rejection...Like others said, it's important to center the aircraft. Background can be important too, but less..You need to let go the "regular/standard rules" of photography in this hobby.
    Rule of thirds,etc doesn't always apply here..
    And keep in mind, most of us have more photo's rejected than accepted, certainly in the beginning.

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  • TomEPKK
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    D-AIXE - you can see 2 letters of reg on the top of the fin and on the front gear. Just search Lufthansa A350 and you will find out the reg

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  • kevinrclemmonsphoto
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    Hi, I have a question regarding a photo, I want to submit. The registration on the airplane is not visible. How should I remediate this in the submission? Click image for larger version

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  • dlowwa
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    Originally posted by kevinrclemmonsphoto View Post
    Dear Screeners,

    I need some feedback on this photos which I intend on submitting for screening. Part of me believe that it looks good but part of me keeps believing that something is missing and I cannot figure out what I need to do to make it so that "something is not missing". Any thoughts?

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    I know you're trying to keep the skyline in the background, but you might want to place the aircraft a bit higher if possible.

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  • kevinrclemmonsphoto
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    Dear Screeners,

    I need some feedback on this photos which I intend on submitting for screening. Part of me believe that it looks good but part of me keeps believing that something is missing and I cannot figure out what I need to do to make it so that "something is not missing". Any thoughts?

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  • kevinrclemmonsphoto
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    Just recieved my first two accepted photos and I cannot believe that my skills reached this level! I would like to take a moment to thank the Jetphotos Screeners for upholding the rigorous standards for Jetphotos.com. The rejections have stung so much but they have pushed my photography skills to the next level! Both revised photos were accepted and I cannot thank the screeners enough for their help! Beyond the photography of aircraft, my photos have seen an increase in terms of better framing and better centering! I will continue to consult the wisdom of the screeners for their wisdom can be applied to general photography.

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  • mahagonny
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    Originally posted by kevinrclemmonsphoto View Post
    First off thank you for your kind and tender response! Just wow! So incredibly friendly! The aviation geeks online are no different than the ones I meet at the airport overlook!

    Anyways, So I guess my question to you is in this case, would it be best to have the airplane centered on the wing? I read somewhere to try to center it on the "center of gravity"? At this point, I need some advice from the pros because the techniques I am using are simply not working. I am to the point that Lightroom is just not enough. I am almost to the point where I may have to go old school, print the photos and utilize a ruler with compass to mathematically compute the required centering adjustments. You stated that "When you're editing your photo, I try to have the middle of the crop lined up with around the middle cabin windows area. Obviously this changes due to perspective and angle." Can you elaborate a little bit more on some of the techniques and tools do you use to get centering spot on? I am very curious and want to learn more! What specific tools do you love and absolutely hate using?
    With regard to centering, a simple rule is to center the cabin's center windows (not always corresponding to those on the wings).
    Obviously every type of plane has its centering.
    For example, small prop single-engine aircraft (eg private), are centered on the propeller axis.
    Use this forum to ask for advice, I've learned a lot and I'm still learning.
    Take a few minutes to review the photo you uploaded using the control tools that JP offers
    P.. Your real fight will be with too much or too little contrast when it occurs.

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  • meeshboi
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    Originally posted by Quebec Golf View Post
    Kevin, it looks like you already have all the important stuff (lighting/contrast, sharpness etc) figured out! To my eye that's perfect sharpness in those photos, not too little, not too much. Hope you don't give up because of the little things like categories and cropping. Surely you can re-crop those photos.

    As the crew and other members have mentioned, for JP it's important to have the fuselage centred in the up-down direction. Many ways to do this, I'm attaching a couple of examples where I used a grid and a rule-of-thirds grid in the photo editor to keep the fuselage in the middle (notice gaps between top and bottom edges of fuselage and the grid lines).

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    Wow! You explained that better than I could. That's probably the best example you can get.

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  • Quebec Golf
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    Kevin, it looks like you already have all the important stuff (lighting/contrast, sharpness etc) figured out! To my eye that's perfect sharpness in those photos, not too little, not too much. Hope you don't give up because of the little things like categories and cropping. Surely you can re-crop those photos.

    As the crew and other members have mentioned, for JP it's important to have the fuselage centred in the up-down direction. Many ways to do this, I'm attaching a couple of examples where I used a grid and a rule-of-thirds grid in the photo editor to keep the fuselage in the middle (notice gaps between top and bottom edges of fuselage and the grid lines).

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  • meeshboi
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    Originally posted by kevinrclemmonsphoto View Post
    Okay, many thanks to all of your valuable feedback! I have resubmitted both photos with corrections. As per jetphotos policy, I believe that I cannot post the corrected photos until they have been reviewed. I have never been this close to getting an acceptable photograph, which means I must have been improving compared to this one which was just awful. [ATTACH=CONFIG]24522[/ATTACH]. Hopefully something will come around
    That framing looks good! Not too sure about the contrast, but someone can correct me on that.

    And if anyone wants to take a peek at my page: https://www.jetphotos.com/photographer/132713

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