Bapt0708: Pre-screening/How to do a better editing ?

[bapt0708]

I reworked the first one and normaly the color profile is the good one (RGB)

[meeshboi]

I reworked the first one and normaly the color profile is the good one (RGB)[ATTACH=CONFIG]25457[/ATTACH]

Looks very over sharpened / over processed.

[bapt0708]

is this better ?

[dlowwa]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25461[/ATTACH] is this better ?

Borderline oversharpened/contrast, and again wrong color profile. Am not going to discuss this again.

[meeshboi]

Borderline oversharpened/contrast, and again wrong color profile. Am not going to discuss this again.

Yep. I agree. Absolutely no point continuing trying to get this photo up. Make sure your using the correct SRGB profile too.

[bapt0708]

ok so i stop trying for this photo so just 2 question for the next pictures:
these are my 2 big problems to see for me:
-How can i know in which color profile i'am because when i go to color profile in my image settings photoshop say that i'am in SRGB but you say i'am not so how can i see i am in the good profile
- second question how can i know if i have too much or too little contrast ?
Thank you .

[dlowwa]

ok so i stop trying for this photo so just 2 question for the next pictures:
these are my 2 big problems to see for me:
-How can i know in which color profile i'am because when i go to color profile in my image settings photoshop say that i'am in SRGB but you say i'am not so how can i see i am in the good profile
- second question how can i know if i have too much or too little contrast ?
Thank you .

First question is an easy fix. Somewhere in your work flow there is a dialog box asking you which profile to assign. One of the versions you posted was indeed sRGB, which shows that it's completely up to you and you are able to adjust this. As for contrast, that is something that is subjective, and can fall into three problematic areas: too much, too little, and unappealing (aesthetically). Most contrast issues for JP fall into the latter two categories. Too little contrast can be see when most of the image is exposed correctly, but the shadows are very weak. The last type (unappealing) is much more subjective, and usually occurs when the the light overall is very flat, and there is little difference between the subject (aircraft) and the background.

[bapt0708]

First question is an easy fix. Somewhere in your work flow there is a dialog box asking you which profile to assign. One of the versions you posted was indeed sRGB, which shows that it's completely up to you and you are able to adjust this. As for contrast, that is something that is subjective, and can fall into three problematic areas: too much, too little, and unappealing (aesthetically). Most contrast issues for JP fall into the latter two categories. Too little contrast can be see when most of the image is exposed correctly, but the shadows are very weak. The last type (unappealing) is much more subjective, and usually occurs when the the light overall is very flat, and there is little difference between the subject (aircraft) and the background.

OK thank you so i'm doing an example, i take one of my pictures
for me all of this are in the good color profile,
and if i understand everything, the first one has too little contrast

The second has good contrast

and the last one has unappealing contrast

is that correct ?

[dlowwa]

OK thank you so i'm doing an example, i take one of my pictures
for me all of this are in the good color profile,
and if i understand everything, the first one has too little contrast
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25512[/ATTACH]
The second has good contrast
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25514[/ATTACH]
and the last one has unappealing contrast
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25513[/ATTACH]
is that correct ?

To be frank, the contrast is terrible in all three images, and none would be acceptable.

[bapt0708]

Ok maybe try an other exemple
so the first one has too little contrast (the shadows are weak)

the second one has some good contrast (the shadows are good)

and the last one has very bad contrast

is this better ?

[LX-A343]

Ok maybe try an other exemple
so the first one has too little contrast (the shadows are weak)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25532[/ATTACH]
the second one has some good contrast (the shadows are good)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25534[/ATTACH]
and the last one has very bad contrast
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25536[/ATTACH]
is this better ?

1, 3: terrible
2: contrast is a bit harsh, overall a bit too dark

[dlowwa]

Ok maybe try an other exemple
so the first one has too little contrast (the shadows are weak)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25532[/ATTACH]
the second one has some good contrast (the shadows are good)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25534[/ATTACH]
and the last one has very bad contrast
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25536[/ATTACH]
is this better ?

As Geri is hinting at, all three would likely be dark/contrast rejections. You might want to start with an image taken in decent light before adding/subtracting contrast to make your point.

[bapt0708]

Ok i'm starting to understand the contrast setting i have a picture with better light but with not a lot of shadows, how is it for the contrast and in general ?

Maybe it looks oversharpened ? but i did nothing for the sharpen during the editing this time to follow your advice.

[dlowwa]

Ok i'm starting to understand the contrast setting i have a picture with better light but with not a lot of shadows, how is it for the contrast and in general ?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25544[/ATTACH]
Maybe it looks oversharpened ? but i did nothing for the sharpen during the editing this time to follow your advice.

This would be rejected for cropping ratio, cut off, centering, and color. Contrast is the least of your worries with this image.

[bapt0708]

Ok so this image is dead for jetphoto because a part of the elevator is cut off in the original picture, but i would like to know the cropping ratio, it's because if i take another ratio the fence is really visible, is it a problem or not ? this is the original picture:

i changed the color profile in my settings i was in e-Srgb and not Srgb