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  • New runway SABE / AEP

    Aeroparque Jorge Newbery (Buenos Aires City downtown's airport) was closed the last several months for a major remodeling.

    The most significant part was the tear down of the runway and the construction of a new one in the same plane but longer, wither, thicker, with new ILS, new PAPI on both sides, new approach lighting system, runway centerline lights and touchdown lights.

    It looks really beautiful. And yet, something immediately made me almost jump when watching this otherwise beautiful video. I hope that it will be fixed before the re-inauguration tomorrow.

    https://www.infobae.com/sociedad/202...-remodelacion/

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  • #2
    ok, i watched it a couple of times and dont see what made you jump. nice drone footage though

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    • #3
      0:32~0:39

      https://youtu.be/VDTxjbq_xP4?t=32

      Can you see it now?
      Anyway, I shared it with other people and they were pretty much "meh", not jumpy like me.
      But I am sure that any pilot (real or Flight Sim) would detect it at once.

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      • #4
        i dunno. looks like the runway threshold is pretty far down the paved approach path but who knows. i give up!

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        • #5
          The PAPI lights (Precision Approach Path Indicator)

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          • #6
            It’s not that obvious...and very short lived as the drone climbs rapidly through the glide slope.
            Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 3WE View Post
              It’s not that obvious...and very short lived as the drone climbs rapidly through the glide slope.
              I would not say it's obvious but it did immediately caught my attention when I first saw the video. I mean, just like you, I was relaxed watching the video for the first time and I didn't know that this feature was there and didn't do any particular effort to discover it. Rather than I finding this, this found me.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 3WE View Post
                It’s not that obvious...and very short lived as the drone climbs rapidly through the glide slope.
                You think that somebody steered a drone through the glide slope of SABE Palermo airport?

                Well, my first thought was, Palermo? Eh, I should be able to tell you something about Palermo airport. But then, I perceived who was the threadstarter.

                Buenos Aires-Palermo. With a clearly shorter runway than what I know as Palermo Punta Raisi, 3300 m.

                Nevertheless, I hope that you had closed Buenos Aires-Palermo when the drone was on her way!

                And now I could try to open thad video.

                PS: Buenos Aires Ezeiza is one of the LH-B744 destinations which I have to see in the simulator. Must be a great town.
                The German long haul is alive, since more than 60 years.
                The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                Aviation enthusiast, since more than 35 years with home airport EDDL.

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                • #9
                  Buenos Aires is a great city.
                  Ezeiza is a town/county outside of Buenos Aires city and is not a great city.
                  And the Ezeiza airport is not a particularly beautiful airport. Aeroparque (SAEZ) is much smaller but more beautiful in my opinion.

                  And where did you get the SABE-Palermo airport thing? SABE (IATA code AEP) is referred to as Aeroparque Jorge Newbery and, while it is located in the neighborhood of Buenos Aires called Palermo, I have never ever heard of it being called Palermo airport.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post

                    You think that somebody steered a drone through the glide slope of SABE Palermo airport?
                    Gabriel posted a video with nice, slow aerial shots of a new runway (including the little hiccup on the PAPI as "the shot" flies down towards the runway and then climbs away.

                    I ASSUME it came from a drone. HOWEVER, it might also have been a heliochopter....Drone photography is so impressive this days, and cheaper to do, so I bet a beer that's what it is.
                    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 3WE View Post

                      Gabriel posted a video with nice, slow aerial shots of a new runway (including the little hiccup on the PAPI as "the shot" flies down towards the runway and then climbs away.

                      I ASSUME it came from a drone. HOWEVER, it might also have been a heliochopter....Drone photography is so impressive this days, and cheaper to do, so I bet a beer that's what it is.
                      Impressive is a word which I accept. And let's find the harmless or rather funny side in this topic. Here on my home airport it's Tuesday already. Saturday and Sunday I did not move far away from where I sit now, in front of my computer, due to rather nasty weather, +3°C or 37.4°F for our friends in overseas, with snowfall from time to time.
                      So I watch the birds who are flyin here, and I don't mean the a/c type 747. Doves. Do you have an Alexa or something like that who is able to translate? If not, I can also do that, but first of all it comes to my mind in German. Tauben sind wirklich manchmal zu dumm zum geradeaus gucken. Und scheppern dann gegen mein Fenster.

                      Now in English. Doves are sometimes not intelligent enough to avoid obstacles. And then they try to compete with my window. But in 100% of all cases they lose the competition, and in 50% of all cases the result is a dead dove.

                      Now my question for tonight. Are drone pilots more intelligent than doves? Without that I wait for your answer, I'd say, No. Not necessarily!
                      The German long haul is alive, since more than 60 years.
                      The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                      And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                      Aviation enthusiast, since more than 35 years with home airport EDDL.

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                      • #12
                        This wouldn't be jetphotos if the SABE airport were not in the database.

                        This one really seems brandnew, although at that location I'd say always has been an airport. Since 1947:

                        https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10125185

                        And this is the topic which during the past year was not so very popular, the Boeing 737. And even down there in Argentina they suffered from that topic? Damn.

                        But somebody was so keen and said, we need the 737-700 and the 737-800, we don't sell them.
                        Obviously a good move, otherwise this new jetphoto were not in the database:

                        https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10125111

                        Aerolineas Argentinas, est. 1949 . Well. I was not really present when the airline was founded, but from somewhere I know that airline. Let me have a look again into the database,
                        AR-B744, .... .. Yes, back then in 2012.

                        https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8535595

                        Or much much much much earlier, a jetphoto which is almost as old as me. Could be my new alltime favorite. Here it is:

                        https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9738761

                        Wow.

                        The German long haul is alive, since more than 60 years.
                        The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                        And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                        Aviation enthusiast, since more than 35 years with home airport EDDL.

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                        • #13
                          And what about this one?
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10031728

                          Or these tail-engined oldies ones?

                          https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...2_edited-2.jpg
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7990848
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8475021
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8127493
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7019546
                          https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/5659970

                          Here SABE in 1950:
                          https://images.clarin.com/2018/03/06...M_720x0__1.jpg

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