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  • Official: WN to codeshare on ATA Hawaii flights

    WN pax will now be able to fly to/from HI:

    Wednesday, January 5, 2005

    Southwest Airlines set to crack Hawaii
    Airline on route to full service
    By Scott McCartney
    The Wall Street Journal


    Aloha, Southwest Airlines. The land-locked discount airline is likely to
    begin selling tickets to Hawaii soon, taking another important step toward
    being a full-service airline.

    In addition to acquiring leases on six gates and a maintenance hangar from
    ATA Holdings Corp.'s ATA Airlines in its bankruptcy reorganization,
    Southwest also agreed to code-share with ATA. That provision, which lets the
    two airlines funnel passengers to each other and sell seats on each other's
    planes, could prove to be the most important part of the $117 million deal.

    For the first time, Southwest will be able to offer flights to congested
    airports it shied away from in the past as well as to popular long-haul
    destinations for which its small Boeing 737s were ill-suited. Using ATA as a
    surrogate, Southwest is about to gain access to New York's LaGuardia Airport
    and Washington's Reagan National Airport. And Southwest will close one of
    the big gaps in its blanket-the-United States route strategy, according to
    people familiar with Southwest's plans, by offering Waikiki.

    Hawaii is an important destination for airlines, one that helps separate the
    discounters from the big network airlines. Competitors have often derided
    Southwest's frequent-flier program as less appealing to travelers because it
    didn't offer Hawaii.

    When this deal goes through, it will send a strong message that the airline,
    already the fourth biggest domestically, intends to be more than just a
    short-hop carrier.

    Under longtime Chairman Herbert Kelleher, Southwest tried to avoid direct
    clashes with bigger airlines and grew rapidly by serving airports not used
    as hubs by traditional carriers.

    But under new Chief Executive Gary Kelly, Southwest has been willing to take
    chances and go after weak network carriers directly. It has attacked
    Bankruptcy Court denizen US Airways Group Inc. in Philadelphia, for example,
    and is building a much-bigger hub, with 25 gates, at Chicago Midway that
    will make life tougher for the competition at Chicago O'Hare.

    ATA flies non-stop to Honolulu from Los Angeles, San Francisco, Phoenix and
    Seattle, and to Maui from Phoenix, San Francisco and Los Angeles. It offers
    one-stop, direct flights from Chicago. Southwest said it will begin its
    code-sharing from Chicago and expand it in the future to Las Vegas, Seattle,
    Phoenix, Los Angeles and Orlando.

    In an unrelated move Tuesday, Southwest which has remained profitable during
    the three-year airline-industry slump, said Tuesday that Kelly and four
    other top executives received cash bonuses ranging from $190,000 to
    $338,120.

    The bonuses rewarded 2004 work and were approved Dec. 28 by the compensation
    committee of Southwest's board of directors, the Dallas-based carrier said
    in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    The biggest bonus went to President Colleen C. Barrett, followed by $275,000
    for Kelly. Kelleher got $212,930, former CEO James F. Parker received
    $225,000, and Jim Wimberly, executive vice president of aircraft operations,
    got $190,000, according to the filing.
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    Awesome stuff.

    Foxtrot

  • #2
    Sounds good from the start, but I hope Southwest isn't making a mistake by this ...
    www.acairport.com

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    • #3
      yeah... i knew about that a week ago.. :yawn:

      Now hawaii is going to be flooded by loads of cheap-skate tourist... turn it into another Cancun... great

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      • #4
        wow-sounds awesome!

        Adam- one of those "cheapskates" just might be me so watch it

        Im curious what the fare would be capped at? 299? and even then thats cheap, and whats the lowest fare? can't be 99 dollars? i think 150-200 is reasonable for a one way fare at least from STL.
        Alex
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        • #5
          This is one of those day will beginnning codeshare with TZ to Hawaii. It pending on these flights from PHX, SFO, LAX, SEA to HNL flights. It is important to better consider some of good hawaiian flights.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PT737SWA
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              • #8
                Originally posted by matt1168
                Sounds good from the start, but I hope Southwest isn't making a mistake by this ...
                I think they don't, they act smart
                - they will codeshare to/from cities they serve, according to what I understand SFO won't be part of the deal as WN closed its station there.
                - they start taking the most of the deal they concluded with TZ.
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                • #9
                  Official: WN to codeshare on ATA Hawaii flights

                  A good move for WN. Now they'll enter Hawaii, without having to equip their own 73Gs with the required addons that would cost extra money.

                  -Colin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DAL767-400ER
                    A good move for WN. Now they'll enter Hawaii, without having to equip their own 73Gs with the required addons that would cost extra money.

                    -Colin
                    WN is already starting to equip some a/c for ETOPS operations in order to shorten flights over the Gulf of Mexico ex: HOU/TPA.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PT737SWA
                      WN is already starting to equip some a/c for ETOPS operations in order to shorten flights over the Gulf of Mexico ex: HOU/TPA.
                      Interesting. Due because the whole flight is overwater, despite the aircraft is never far from the coast line ?!

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                      • #12
                        Official: WN to codeshare on ATA Hawaii flights

                        Originally posted by PT737SWA
                        WN is already starting to equip some a/c for ETOPS operations in order to shorten flights over the Gulf of Mexico ex: HOU/TPA.
                        For such flights? I mean, at maximum you would be some 15 minutes from an airfield able to handle a diversion. You really need ETOPS for that?

                        -Colin

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DAL767-400ER
                          For such flights? I mean, at maximum you would be some 15 minutes from an airfield able to handle a diversion. You really need ETOPS for that?

                          -Colin
                          It's more because of the distance from shore. WN plans to fly around 200 miles offshore instead of the max 50 or so allowed without ETOPS equipment. It will save time and precious jet fuel.
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                          • #14
                            Official: WN to codeshare on ATA Hawaii flights

                            Originally posted by PT737SWA
                            It's more because of the distance from shore. WN plans to fly around 200 miles offshore instead of the max 50 or so allowed without ETOPS equipment. It will save time and precious jet fuel.
                            Makes, though I always thought the most important factor for ETOPS is time.

                            -Colin

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PT737SWA
                              WN is already starting to equip some a/c for ETOPS operations in order to shorten flights over the Gulf of Mexico ex: HOU/TPA.
                              almost makes you think there's more behind it.
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