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  • AC to order 50 widebodies later this year

    Air Canada expands its fleet
    By Bernard Simon
    Published: January 30 2005 23:16 | Last updated: January 30 2005 23:16

    Air Canada plans to order about 50 wide-body aircraft later this year for its expanding international network.

    The Montreal-based carrier, which emerged from a court-supervised restructuring last October, is one of the few traditional North American airlines replenishing its fleet. While most US carriers remain in deep financial difficulty, Air Canada is forecasting an operating profit of about C$1.6bn (US$1.28bn) this year.

    The Canadian carrier used the restructuring to cut its debt from C$12bn to C$4bn, and to raise C$1.1bn in new equity. With the bulk of its debt and lease obligations denominated in US dollars, Air Canada has also benefited from a sharp rise in the Canadian dollar.

    Robert Milton, chief executive, said the airline was likely to order either the Boeing 7E7 Dreamliner or the Airbus A-350, each with a capacity of about 250 passengers. The new aircraft will replace an ageing fleet of wide-body Boeing 767s.

    The 7E7 is due to enter service in 2008. Airbus's shareholders gave the go-ahead for the A-350 last month, with a target introduction date of 2010.

    Air Canada is already bumping into capacity constraints as it expands its international services, especially to Asia and Latin America.

    It has recently brought two mothballed 767s back into service and is leasing several used 767s and long-range Airbus A-340s.

    The carrier will also start taking delivery later this year of 105 Embraer and Bombardier regional jets to improve flexibility.
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    I know Boeing is (and assume Airbus is also) begining in-depth talks with AC. The 787 would be a great fit for AC and I hope they buy them.
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    • #3
      Buying the 787 would totally be a good move for AC. Who wants to rely on just one manufacturer. Plus they 787 will be available sooner then the A350 will.. and AC definately could use those plans now. But I guess we'll see if AC can pull off a profitable quarter first

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      • #4
        I'd suspect they order from both manufacturers. Some additional A345s and finally A346s from Airbus (10 planes), and 40 787s from Boeing to replace their 767s.

        -Colin

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        • #5
          Watch to see how compatable the A350 is with the A330 and A340. Pilots cost a lot and if they can fly more than one acft type all the better.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DAL767-400ER
            I'd suspect they order from both manufacturers. Some additional A345s and finally A346s from Airbus (10 planes), and 40 787s from Boeing to replace their 767s.

            -Colin
            I agree, that sounds likely to me.
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            • #7
              This sound good to me with Boeing or Airbus. If they will ordering with B787. It is better for than with Airbus A350.

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              • #8
                "Air Canada is already bumping into capacity constraints as it expands its international services, especially to Asia and Latin America."

                Does AC plan to continue their LatAm expansion before the arrival pf those new jets? Which possible new destinations they might serve?

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                • #9
                  The A 350 would fit in their fleet better than the 787.
                  They already have A333, A343 and A345. Don't they have 3 A346 still on order?
                  Andy

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                  • #10
                    This is stupid, but what the heck.... think we might see some AC A380s?
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                    • #11
                      I don't think AC are not orders with A380 yet. They will make their decision for new aircraft.

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                      • #12
                        No A 380 for AC.
                        They just retired their 747 fleet.
                        Andy

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                        • #13
                          Id say they would have to go for the A350, considering the airbus commontality, but where as the 787 is launched into service earlyer, its hard to tell?
                          -Kevin

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LH 340-600
                            No A 380 for AC.
                            They just retired their 747 fleet.
                            Not only that but so far they have not taken up the A346s they used to have on order (don't know whether that order is still in place). Plus they don't have that many high-density routes anyway. Maybe in the longterm future, they could need some 2-3 for LHR flights, but I doubt they would operate such a small subfleet.

                            -Colin

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ptbodale
                              Watch to see how compatable the A350 is with the A330 and A340. Pilots cost a lot and if they can fly more than one acft type all the better.
                              Wise Man one has spoken. Look rather for the 350 unless Boeing does it the Singapore way by purshasing every A330/343/345/346, including airframes still on order + generous trade-in as for the 767s.

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