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    TORONTO (CP) - Survivors of an Air France flight that skidded off a runway and burst into flames say they are entitled to further compensation from the airline because of the trauma they suffered, and deny that being part a class-action lawsuit is simply a cash grab.

    "We are very thankful to have survived that, but we need to know why it happened, should it have happened, and what are they going to do compensate us," said Veronique Lacaille of Aurora, Ont., at an information meeting Wednesday on one of two multimillion-dollar class-action lawsuits filed against the airline.

    "We have nightmares, we don't sleep well, we have back pains."

    Lacaille, 45, and her husband Phillippe were among the 309 passengers and crew when Flight 358 slid off the end of the runway at Pearson International Airport during a severe thunderstorm last week.

    No one died in the crash, but 43 people suffered minor injuries.

    Lacaille, who was among the dozens of passengers and relatives who attended the meeting to consider joining the $325-million lawsuit filed by law firm Will Barristers, said her whole family suffered physically and mentally from the incident.

    "I hope nobody will go through that because we lost everything," said Lacaille, a mother of two.

    "It's not only the material stuff, but it's now going to be scary to get back on a plane."

    During the meeting, lawyers urged passengers to seek legal representation before coming to any kind of financial settlement with the airline.

    But some who attended the meeting decided they have no desire to join a class action.

    "I'm not looking for any further compensation," said Eddie Ho, 19, a South African student at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont., who said he wanted no part of an "ugly lawsuit."

    "Air France did say to us they would compensate for our losses, but I haven't heard from them, so that's why I'm here."

    Passenger Suzanne Deak has been named representative plaintiff for the class-action lawsuit against Air France, the Greater Toronto Airports Authority and Nav Canada.

    The Air France crash has spurred at least one other class action, a $150-million suit that names a mother and her three-year-old daughter as the representative plaintiffs.

    Another Toronto lawyer has also vowed to file a class action in the coming weeks.

    Only one class action can proceed, and if the various lawyers involved can't agree, then the court will decide which one will go ahead.

    Those named in the suits have yet to respond, and the claims have yet to be tested in court.
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  • #2
    Whatever happened to being grateful for being alive? Of course Air France should offer something, but this lawsuit shit is just plain greed on the part of the crash survivors and the lawyers who encourage it.

    Andy

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    • #3
      I agree exmanx. I'm presuming for the passengers the de-acceleration forces would have been minor as the Airbus was relatively intact after it came to rest, and from what I gather it was a text book evacuation.


      Some compensation sure but suing for millions is just pathetic, those idiots just need to build a bridge & get over it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by exmanx
        Whatever happened to being grateful for being alive? Of course Air France should offer something, but this lawsuit shit is just plain greed on the part of the crash survivors and the lawyers who encourage it.

        Andy
        Totally agree, they should be thankful that they survived. Really cant stand people who try to exploit everything to their advantage but i guess it was only a matter of time before the lawsuits were going to be coming thick and fast.

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        • #5
          No surprise here. At least the French finally found something the American's do worth copying.
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          • #6
            Shark-shit and lawyers - always mentioned in the same phrase. Once again we have ambulance chaser mentality prevailing here - not that I am biased (ha, ha) did you see the comment from the South African passenger !! Tough buggers arn't we then ?
            RobB

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            • #7
              There was a cartoon in the paper not long ago, it showed the back half of the tain with flames and people running away from it and one firefighter says to the other, 'Here come the surivors!'...The next frame has just smoke insted of flames and guys in suits running towards the plane and the firefighter says, 'There go the lawyers'.

              There was a lawyer on the radio here two days after, and damn, he made perfect sense....weird Lawyers and Insurance people can make sense out of the scummiest things!

              His point was getting compensation for lost items. *AF was offering $300, one persons claim was quite hefty, including $2000+ for a new laptop. He mentioned that in such a case there isn't alot of time by law, or by people signing various papers/taking compensation, to not do anything, thus the fast action.

              Proper insurance really would avoid all of these lawsuits...I had a good laugh over one claim I was told about...It was a car accident and the guy sued but the policy had a subrogation clause, so the company took the money from the claim back, which would have been tax free, and he enjoyed the world of getting taxes on a large sum of money. He would have gotten away with much more had he not sued. Guess the lawyer didn't mention that, Oh well

              * - According to the schmoe on the radio...

              Edit; Theres also another suit that names Airbus as a defendant as well.

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              • #8
                Ofcourse they should get compensation for there lost personal belongings, and maybe some free tickets to any AF destination, but asking for millions is just plain greedy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shadower
                  Ofcourse they should get compensation for there lost personal belongings, and maybe some free tickets to any AF destination, but asking for millions is just plain greedy.
                  Yeah, 150M comes out to like 500,000$ per person. I wonder if anyone actually had that much in goods on the plane.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shadower
                    and maybe some free tickets to any AF destination
                    That might not go down well with some.
                    YBBN - James

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                    • #11
                      I can't believe how many pom pom boys for airlines some of you guys are.

                      Free trips? Now that is crap. This was an accident that needs to be investigated. I agree that millions is overkill but someone is liable for the trauma, fear and sleepless nights and the back pains that a passenger mentioned. I would hope that if I were on that flight I would have suffered no emotional or physical pain but none of you guys were on that flight.

                      The problem is 1) Air France, 2) GTAA, 3) Nav Canada. A full investigation would have to be done to see who was really at fault, or mostly at fault. I don't think it was Air France alone but I would rather wait for the investigation.

                      As for the pax. if they suffered they need to be compensated by a judge, not AF's good will.

                      As for the lawyers, they got their job to do. If any of you were on that flight, are you certain you wouldn't see things different.

                      I don't care about the welfare of Air France.
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                      • #12
                        Good point beyond, no one here can say that if they were on this plane they wouldn't do anything.

                        Everyone here would see everyone else going for money so they'd jump on the bandwagon; don't say it's not the truth. I mean it's free money so why not. If everyone else gets it, you might as well too!

                        Everyone also knows that the passengers will most definately get more compensation than what is needed. The "general public" that will be on these juries and so forth will "feel" for these passengers.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tanner_J
                          Good point beyond, no one here can say that if they were on this plane they wouldn't do anything.

                          Everyone here would see everyone else going for money so they'd jump on the bandwagon; don't say it's not the truth. I mean it's free money so why not. If everyone else gets it, you might as well too!

                          Everyone also knows that the passengers will most definately get more compensation than what is needed. The "general public" that will be on these juries and so forth will "feel" for these passengers.
                          Thats just about what I was thinking. It's easy to talk, when a person wasn't actually there. And all they have to do is join in the law suit, and get money if anything is awarded. I'm sure many of those responding here would also be tempted to do the same.....

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                          • #14
                            I think that claims should be discussed after the accident has been investigated. Then levels of responsibility can be assessed. Compensation, in my opinion, should be a conservative reflection of the level of sound judgement.

                            If there was sound judgement involved in the landing which led to the accident, then I think there should be very little -or no- compensation. If, on the other hand, it is found that less than adequate judgement was used in the landing and accident then compensation should be awarded.

                            As for the personal effects, yes, i think that there should be compensation.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AA 1818
                              "It's not only the material stuff, but it's now going to be scary to get back on a plane."
                              How about you stop bitching and money-grabbing and be glad you have a chance to get back on a plane.
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