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    European planemaker Airbus' parent company EADS will make a key piece of US rival Boeing's latest passenger jet, in a sign of how outsourcing can trump national pride.

    Boeing supplier Vought Aircraft Industries' announcement on Monday that EADS will be a subcontractor on its work on the 787 was at first glance a surprise considering that Boeing and Airbus -- two symbols of regional industrial might -- are facing off in a trade battle.

    But analysts said the news, first reported by the Seattle Times, was an inevitable consequence of an engineering-intensive industry where a handful of companies have the know-how to build the necessary specialized parts.

    "Subcontracting makes for strange bedfellows," said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst with the Teal Group, adding that the move was a symptom of "greater internationalization" of manufacturing that is an inevitable consequence of globalized airliner sales.

    The 787, a jet built largely of composite materials, is one of the most outsourced planes in history, including 30 percent to be built by Japanese manufacturers.

    Dallas-based Vought, which will build much of the plane's rear fuselage, said it had reached price agreements with companies including EADS, which will make a rear wall known as the aft pressure bulkhead.

    Vought said Boeing had not limited which companies it could hire as subcontractors.

    "Apparently this is a small global supply base," said Vought spokeswoman Lynne Warne. "In most cases it's a unique capability, so it's not like you can competitively bid a lot of these processes when there are only a handful of people who can do portions of this work."

    EADS-Casa, EADS' Spanish unit, already makes the rudder for Boeing's 737 as well as the flaps and ailerons on its 777, Aboulafia said. Britain's BAE Systems which owns 20 percent of Airbus to EADS' 80 percent, also makes parts of the 777.

    Airbus itself plans to outsource up to 70 percent of its aircraft production abroad, Chief Executive Gustav Humbert was quoted as saying in German newspapers on Monday.

    Still, Aboulafia said Airbus has often been aggressive in acquiring companies in its supply chain, moving in the opposite direction of Boeing, which earlier this year sold off a key part of its jetmaking operations in the latest such move.

    Boeing and Airbus are locked in a trade dispute over what Boeing calls unfair subsidies from European governments to Airbus planes like the A350, a rival for the 787.

    Airbus has said Boeing also receives subsidies in the form of defense contracts from the US government, assistance from the state of Washington and Japanese government help for Boeing partners Fuji Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.

    Source: http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1129672310.html

    I'm going to call it A-787.

    And I'll ask my "subsidy", as an European tax-payer, back from Boeing.

    Regards.
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  • #2
    Man, I can't believe you beat me to it!


    Mit der Langstreckenmaschine 787 will der US-Konzern Boeing dem europäischen Erzrivalen Airbus wieder die Markführerschaft im Zivilflugzeugbau abnehmen. Dabei bekommen die Amerikaner nun Unterstützung von der Airbus-Mutter EADS.




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    "Augsburger EADS-Werk soll ein großes Rumpfbauteil aus Verbundwerkstoff für die 787-Produktion geliefert werden"
    Looks like part of the fuselage (prolly the pressure bulkhead) will be built in Augsburg, Germany;

    "Wie er weiter sagte, soll eine kanadische EADS-Dependance zudem Seitenstreben für die 787 liefern."
    ...while some support struts will be built by an EADS-dependance from Canada.


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    • #3
      This could be a 'bodgit and scarper' job!
      DTVAirport

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bmiChris2k5
        This could be a 'bodgit and scarper' job!
        I've been scouring the net in search of what "Bodgit and Scarper" means. Couldnt find it. Does it mean doing a bad job at sth? Must be a British term, cause I haven't heard of it yet...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AC_A340-500
          I've been scouring the net in search of what "Bodgit and Scarper" means. Couldnt find it. Does it mean doing a bad job at sth? Must be a British term, cause I haven't heard of it yet...
          Yea, it probably is a British term, bodgit means deliberately do a bad job, and scarper means get the hell out of there once the job is done.
          DTVAirport

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bmiChris2k5
            Yea, it probably is a British term, bodgit means deliberately do a bad job, and scarper means get the hell out of there once the job is done.

            Now THAT is funny!

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            • #7
              Airbus itself plans to outsource up to 70 percent of its aircraft production abroad, Chief Executive Gustav Humbert was quoted as saying in German newspapers on Monday.
              Well, that's where New Zealand comes in with its quality aluminium; supposed to be going on some part of the wing

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AC_A340-500
                Now THAT is funny!
                As I said in a previous thread, I'm not very good at detecting sarcasm, so are you being serious?
                DTVAirport

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                • #9
                  its Airbus vs Boeing between the B787 and A350 and Airbus is making parts of the B787.


                  JAT - More than flying

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                  • #10
                    On a similar note, I noticed some Northrop Grumman ads in AW&ST that were advertising the proposed A330 tanker. Partnership there?

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                    • #11
                      Boeing builds parts for Airbus too. Its not a big deal.
                      THE VOICE OF REASON HAS SPOKEN!
                      Pop quiz: Which US president said, "Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
                      George W. Bush is not correct. It was Bill Clinton in his 1998 State of the Union speech. HMMMMMMMMM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wannabepilot777
                        Boeing builds parts for Airbus too. Its not a big deal.
                        Well then tell us the parts that Boeing makes?
                        -Kevin

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bmiChris2k5
                          As I said in a previous thread, I'm not very good at detecting sarcasm, so are you being serious?
                          I was referring to the idiom. I think it's hilarious!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by aca_srbija
                            its Airbus vs Boeing between the B787 and A350 and Airbus is making parts of the B787.

                            isn't that like letting Iraq build parts of our tanks?
                            In every organization, there will always be one person who knows what's going on. This person must be fired.

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                            • #15
                              Wow...
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                              http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=170

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