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  • uy707
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    Sud Aviation
    was merged with Nord Aviation which manufactured the Nord 262 and the C160 Transalls due for the French Airforce back in 1969/1970 to come up with Aérospatiale
    Hawker Siddeley
    was merged with BAC to actually form BAe
    BAC itself
    was the merged of Vickers with English Electric of Camberra and Lightning fames, Folland and Saunders Roe
    Ilyushin as with any Russian fellows such as Andrei Tupolev, Yakovlev and so on
    is the name of a design bureau founded by the engineer who bore that name. Actual manufacture was undertaken by a consortia appointed by the Soviet production ministry.
    Alain

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  • DAL767-400ER
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    ^Indeed, the whole RB211 problems RR had were the major nail in the coffin for Lockheed's commercial plane division. Had those problems not happened (I know, hindsight is 20/20), things would have worked out way better for Lockheed, as the L-1011 was an excellent plane after all, and in now way worse than the DC-10, on the contrary. It is a much more sturdy and robust plane, and especially during the early years had a way better track record than the then-touted "deathtrap" DC-10. One of course could also speculate what the proposed Bi-Star (twin based on the L-1011) could have done, but that is too speculative.

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  • CathayPacific
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    Originally posted by Crunk415balla
    The L-1011 was a failure? I never knew this, I always heard of how well it sold to airlines across the globe.
    It was competing with DC-10 then. While 446 DC-10s were sold, only 250 L-1011s were sold. The failure of L-1011 to match up to DC-10 was due to the delay of the RR engines which was chosen as the exclusive powerplant of the L-1011. RR went bankrupt when the development cost of the RB211 went over the roof. It was rescued by the British government. And I think Lockheed was only rescued by some kind of government guaranteed loan and thus narrowly avoided Ch.11. At the end due to the high R&D cost which was way over the budgeted cost, the programme lost a lot of money for Lockheed and it bails out of the commercial airliner business. Note that after late 1970s, L-1011 was also threatened by the development of A300.

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  • Crunk415balla
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    The L-1011 was a failure? I never knew this, I always heard of how well it sold to airlines across the globe.

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  • a78jumper
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    Convair lost a lot of money on the 880/990 but did not go bankrupt. They merged into General Dynamics in 1953. Canadair was also owned for a period of time by GD before being resold back to the Canadian government in 1976.

    From Wikipedia (so open to error)

    The Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation, universally known as Convair, was the result of a 1943 merger between Consolidated Aircraft and Vultee Aircraft, resulting in a leading aircraft manufacturer of the United States. In March 1953, Convair was acquired by General Dynamics, becoming the Convair Division of the merged company.[1] It produced aircraft until 1965, then shifted to space and airframe projects. In 1994 this aerostructures unit was sold to McDonnell Douglas, the Fort Worth facility went to Lockheed, and in 1996 General Dynamics shut down the Convair Division.

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  • transitfan
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    Lockheed is now Lockheed Martin; they just received a contract from the US government to build the Orion spaceship capsule that will return astronauts to the moon later this century.

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  • ACman
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    Aerospatiale: Merged and formed Aérospatiale-Matra, then merged with CASA, still has things with EADS

    BAC: Became BAe, then BAE Systems

    Canadair: Subsiderary of Bombardier that merged back

    Convair: Ch.11, Bankrupt after no one bought the CV-880 and CV-990

    De Havilland: Bought by Boeing, sold to Bombardier, became subsdiderary then became apart of Bombardier

    Fairchild Aerospace: Bankrupt after DO.728

    Hawker Siddeley: Merged with BAe

    Illyushin: Mergeing with other Russian manufacturers to form a big one

    Lockheed: Stopped producing commercial aircraft after the L1011

    Saab: Stopped producing commercial aicraft after S.2000, still makes fighter jets

    Shorts: Subsiderary of Bombardier

    Sud Aviation: Merged with BAC to form Airbus

    Vickers: Sold and bought by BAC

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  • DAL767-400ER
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    Aerospatiale = part of EADS, read: Airbus
    BAC = BAe
    Canadair = Part of Bombardier
    Convair = No idea
    De Havilland = Bought by Boeing, sold to Bombardier
    Fairchild Aerospace = Merged with Dornier to become Fairchild-Dornier, declared Ch7 a few years ago
    Hawker Siddeley = Believe it's part of BAe, not sure though
    Illyushin = Still a seperate brand, however part of Putin's attempt at merging all Russian plane manufacturers together
    Lockheed = Decided to do only military after their multi-billion dollar failure L-1011
    Saab = Went military-only after sales of their SF-340 and SF-2000 dried up
    Shorts = Merged into BAe as well, IIRC
    Sud Aviation = Another founding member of Airbus
    Vickers = Yet another part of BAe

    McDD was the result of a merger between the Douglas Co. and McDonnell Aviation, nowhere near as successful as Douglas.

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  • What Happened To These Aircraft Manufacturers?

    What happened to these aircraft manufacturers?

    Aerospatiale
    BAC
    Canadair (merge or buy-out by Bombardier?)
    Convair
    De Havilland (merge or buy-out by Canadair?)
    Fairchild Aerospace
    Hawker Siddeley
    Illyushin
    Lockheed
    Saab
    Shorts
    Sud Aviation
    Vickers

    On similar notes, is BAe just British Aerospace rebranded and was McDonnell Douglas just Douglas rebranded?

    Regards.
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