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    NEW YORK (AP) — Low-cost Canadian carrier Zoom Airlines makes its first foray into the U.S. market Thursday when it launches a daily flight from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport to London's Gatwick Airport.
    Zoom is offering one-way fares of $199 on its 266-seat Boeing 767-300's. Slightly larger "premium economy" seats can be had for an additional $179 each way.

    In comparison, the cheapest round-trip flight between New York and London in mid-July is listed at $753, or about $377 each way, according to SideStep.com.

    "It's a very low price for the summer," said Bob Mann, an airline consultant with R.W. Mann & Co. in Port Washington, N.Y.

    Zoom does not require passengers to buy a round-trip ticket or stay over on a Saturday night, both typical requirements for a cheaper flight on most airlines. Zoom, based in Ottawa, Canada, and at Gatwick, already operates 10 to 12 daily flights between Canada and the U.K. Zoom is adding the New York-London route because nearly 42,000 people travel between the two cities every week, said chairman Hugh Boyle.

    "It's the daddy of them all," Boyle said.

    Some analysts doubt Zoom will last.

    "The problem with the Zoom concept is that it doesn't fill a market gap," said Mike Boyd, president of The Boyd Group in Evergreen, Colo. "There are now plenty of low-fare airlines across the Atlantic. ... It's called the economy cabins of American (Airlines), British (Airways), Continental (Airlines), etc."

    Boyle said the four-year-old company is profitable, and knows what it's doing.

    "We know it works between Canada and the UK," Boyle said. Zoom is a full-service carrier, Boyle said, meaning it serves food and hands out pillows at no extra charge. There is an additional charge for seat selection.

    Most passengers book online, which keeps Zoom's costs low, Boyle said. The airline will sell as many as 25% of its seats at the $199 rate, but other seats will be more expensive. There will be 88 "premium economy" seats on each flight. Zoom will also carry cargo. Boyle boasted flight occupancy rates of 90%, compared with an industry average of about 81%, according to Goldman Sachs.

    Low-cost carriers have tried international routes before, Mann said, but few have stuck with it. That's because low cost carriers prefer to fly planes four to six times a day on busy domestic routes that let the airline quickly turn each plane around for another trip, Mann said.

    "It's just a fundamentally different business," Mann said.

    But Zoom's 767-300s are the perfect plane for a company trying Zoom's model, he said.

    "That's an airplane on which $199 each way, you can cover your costs," Mann said. Zoom's low fares will put pressure on other carriers, he said.

    "This will limit some of the traditional guy's ability to sell some of their more expensive seats," Mann said. And Zoom's not done. Boyle said the privately held airline is looking at other busy domestic routes and may add new flights early next year.

    "The U.S. from the U.K. is a huge market, and we will roll it out," Boyle said.
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    Hmmm... So that is why thay wanted to start a British Offshoot of the airline so badly. Anyway, I think that it is rediculuous for them to start with $199.00 fares, but then again, if I were the consumer then that price would be tempting. I want to see how long they can keep it up.
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    If I was living near JFK, I'd book that fare today... what a great deal.
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    • #3
      LGW seems to be getting all the action when it comes to long haul budget carriers - first Oasis HK Airlines, now Zoom. LGW is fine if you live in south-east of the UK. If not (like me) it can be a 5 hour drive. I flew Oasis from LGW, but after stacking up petrol costs and car parking for 3 weeks, I almost could have gone scheduled with KLM from CWL, and without the hassle of getting to and from LGW.

      By the way, anyone else notice how the arrivals at LGW is a bit run down? On my arrival there a few weeks ago, no arrival info screens were working (well apart from displaying a Windows 95 logo!!) and I get the impression the whole baggage hall needs modernising or at least some paint.
      “If you shoot for the stars and hit the moon, it's OK. But you've got to shoot for something. A lot of people don't even shoot.”
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      • #4
        Advertisements here in the UK show flights costing £129.00 one-way, which isn't particularly cheap, least of all for a low-fares airlines! (That's approx $260.00)

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        • #5
          If I had a way to get to New York, I'd book it. Amazing fare. I plan on visiting JFK on Virgin America once they start up in August, but I don't think I'll be able to then afford/talk my parents into letting me go to London from there.
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          • #6
            If I didnt have to pay $200 just to get to NY, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Haven't been on an international flight since '01, never been on Zoom either! Nice to hear that Zoom is really expanding internationally, and even better news for us 767 fans

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            • #7
              Zoom Won't last just because the market is crowded as it is.
              John Poshepny

              If the Wright brother were alive today Wilbur would have to fire Orville to reduce costs.— Herb Kelleher, Southwest Airlines, 'USA Today,' 1994

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              • #8
                Zoom Won't last just because the market is crowded as it is
                Hmmmmm interesting comment AASuper80Fan, I wonder is your comment based on years of industry experience? a careful overview of the market and the segment Zoom are targetting? or is your comment just a throwaway line from a plane spotter with no real analytical skills or business accumen.
                Just to give a clue, here are a few quick thoughts......
                1. Zoom are targetting a COMPLETELY different market segment than most of the major carriers currently service (to that end they have very little in the way of direct competition for their low cost economy product London to New York)
                2. The premium economy product is targetting the traditional standard economy passengers..albiet with increased legroom.
                3. Zoom have already made this a success on the Canada/UK segment, which in many ways is actually more competitive and cut-throat in the market sector they are actually targetting..i.e. the charter carriers
                4. The UK arm of Zoom will be expanding a route structure to operate throughout the US, rather than concerntrating on NY alone, Bermuda is the first aspect of this.
                5. Zoom as an organisation has a much lower overall cost base to contend with in comparison to its competitors.

                Just a few points of rebuttal for you AASuper80Fan

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                • #9
                  767Driver,
                  I am just a joe schom plane spotter, but I will say, I do study Business alot, because I want to get into Business in College, when I see the Paper the first thing I go after is the Business Section. I will say, I didn't know that ZOOM had the Canada to UK Market. But I am sure you will agree with me on this one, we should wait and see how it does, before making futher judgements. I will say, I was reading the article kind of fast.

                  Originally posted by 767driver
                  Hmmmmm interesting comment AASuper80Fan, I wonder is your comment based on years of industry experience? a careful overview of the market and the segment Zoom are targetting? or is your comment just a throwaway line from a plane spotter with no real analytical skills or business accumen.
                  Just to give a clue, here are a few quick thoughts......
                  1. Zoom are targetting a COMPLETELY different market segment than most of the major carriers currently service (to that end they have very little in the way of direct competition for their low cost economy product London to New York)
                  2. The premium economy product is targetting the traditional standard economy passengers..albiet with increased legroom.
                  3. Zoom have already made this a success on the Canada/UK segment, which in many ways is actually more competitive and cut-throat in the market sector they are actually targetting..i.e. the charter carriers
                  4. The UK arm of Zoom will be expanding a route structure to operate throughout the US, rather than concerntrating on NY alone, Bermuda is the first aspect of this.
                  5. Zoom as an organisation has a much lower overall cost base to contend with in comparison to its competitors.

                  Just a few points of rebuttal for you AASuper80Fan
                  John Poshepny

                  If the Wright brother were alive today Wilbur would have to fire Orville to reduce costs.— Herb Kelleher, Southwest Airlines, 'USA Today,' 1994

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                  • #10
                    Cross the fingers for them anyway
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by uy707
                      Cross the fingers for them anyway
                      I agree, I only hope for the best for Zoom! I'm sure they'll do fine.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TransWorld727
                        I agree, I only hope for the best for Zoom! I'm sure they'll do fine.
                        Have you flown with them? From a couple of friends that flew with them the service was pretty good, hoever if you are over 6'0 you will be cramped.

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                        • #13
                          Someone I worked with last year was quite impressed with their service. The 767 is a selling point so long as their don't try to cram in 8 across like some charters do.

                          I just would rather pay a few more $$$$ and get a heavily discounted fare with a major airline. When Zoom's one plane in LGW for eg goes unserviceable you are going to wait hours for a replacement, AC on the other hand for eg has many many options for getting home on other flights.

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