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    Local TV station sent a reporter in undercover for training as a de icer only to find the trainer gave out the test answers.

    http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&aid=133478
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  • #2
    Well, the questions/answers to FAA pilot tests are published, so anyone needing to study for a test can know what they could possibly be asked. So I really don't see how this is any different

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    • #3
      Quite interesting. You can scrimp on a lot of things, but not safety. Actually de-icing is a better job now than it use to be. Now the sprayer has enclosed cabs. "In the old day"s we were up in a bucket and you got covered with the stuff.

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      • #4
        As a trainee paramedic I was set example questions from previous examinations to assist in examination techniques but I still had no idea of the actual questions pertaining to my finals that led to my qualification. I was therefore tested on my ability to recall ALL of the training.

        The difference here is that the trainees were given the answers to their final examinations that led to their qualifications. These folks were therefore only tested on their ability to recall the actual questions and answers.
        If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Airbus_A320
          Well, the questions/answers to FAA pilot tests are published
          It is true that sample questions and answers are avaliable for the tests to practice before you actually take the test. But it is quite different when the the trainer is training you just to pass the test and not giving you the skills needed to properly and safely perform the job.
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          • #6
            That's just plain unsafe. Sure hope they get a better teacher ASAP.

            -Chris

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            • #7
              A lot of this goes on in airports.

              My new-hire, HAZMAT, CSA Induction test and my Airport Badge SIDA test, the instructors were throwing awnsers out there, they just want us to pass so they can get on with their lives. In the HAZMAT we just did the test as a big group. People I know on the ramp told me similar things. So nothing shocking here.
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              • #8
                Wonder if i could get a job as a de icer here in Brisbane





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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Crunk415balla
                  A lot of this goes on in airports.

                  My new-hire, HAZMAT, CSA Induction test and my Airport Badge SIDA test, the instructors were throwing awnsers out there, they just want us to pass so they can get on with their lives. In the HAZMAT we just did the test as a big group. People I know on the ramp told me similar things. So nothing shocking here.
                  Did you have to do the OSHA materials handling course?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jet-fighters.Net
                    Local TV station sent a reporter in undercover for training as a de icer only to find the trainer gave out the test answers.

                    http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&aid=133478
                    Question is : how the future professionnal is in handling situations off the beaten tracks and test tables !!!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bok269
                      Did you have to do the OSHA materials handling course?
                      OSHA? Never come across that abberviation.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Crunk415balla
                        OSHA? Never come across that abberviation.
                        Stands for Occupational Safety and Health Admin

                        We did at Southwest Airlines for CSA.

                        Alex
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                        • #13
                          Nah, we didn't have to do that for NZ.
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