IAH trumps DFW, once again

[BigBoeingNYC]

Looks like IAH will have another Asian carrier added to it's lineup of new airlines servicing Houston in '08'.

This makes #3

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/5374832.html
http://www.fly2houston.com/0/625002/0/1906D1934/

To add insult to injury, they get 2 new int'l destinations in the deal, DME and SIN. C' mon what about DFW? After all we have their cargo service, why not pax flights?

DFW board get off your collective butts and get some business in here. We are being trumped by a tiny airport in a blue collar town and that's just wrong. DFW by all rights should be the int'l gateway to Texas and the SW.

Mark

[DAL767-400ER]

We are being trumped by a tiny airport in a blue collar town and that's just wrong.

Yeah, a "blue collar town" that only so just happens to be one of the world's most important oil cities .

[uy707]

Was about to post something about high-end blue collars, who actually fill the aircrafts year long by flying back and forth to oil rig locations.
True, DFW is rather a city of top brass, top decision makers and tycoons, but who predominantly use private jets, which probably explains many things.

[BigBoeingNYC]

Yeah, a "blue collar town" that only so just happens to be one of the world's most important oil cities .

Perhaps, but IAH is a 'house of cards'. Once oil prices collapse (and they will), SQ, EK, QR and the others will likely wave bye-bye to IAH, then perhaps it will be DFW's time to shine and take it's rightful place as THE int'l gateway to Texas. Face it, Houston is a 'one horse town'. Like Detroit with automotive industry, Houston it has all of it's eggs are in the 'energy basket' with little economic diversification since the last collapse of the late 80s. And like Detroit, Houston, if it is not careful will likely head down the same path.

Mark

[DAL767-400ER]

Perhaps, but IAH is a 'house of cards'.

Opinion.

Once oil prices collapse (and they will),

And, uh, you base this on what knowledge exactly?

SQ, EK, QR and the others will likely wave bye-bye to IAH,

Rather questionable.

then perhaps it will be DFW's time to shine and take it's rightful place as THE int'l gateway to Texas.

And other than personal opinio, why is DFW supposedly "THE int'l gateway to Texas"?

Like Detroit with automotive industry, Houston it has all of it's eggs are in the 'energy basket' with little economic diversification since the last collapse of the late 80s.

And they make a sh!tload of money with it and actually manage to attract new carriers.

And like Detroit, Houston, if it is not careful will likely head down the same path.

Yeah, I'm sure the massive traffic shrinkage at DTW has already caused major headaches for everyone.

Oh wait...

[LUNN]

China Airlines are dropping passenger service to IAH from February.

[DeltaFlyer]

DFW will never see a large influx of foreign passenger carriers because they are too busy trying to appease AA and WN, whereas the Houston airport authority realizes they need CO and WN but dont bow down to them...Houston is a perfect example of a Southwest dominated coast-to-coast domestic airport (HOU) and a legacy carrier hub (IAH) that gets along great...

DFW has the business for the international flights in both O&D and connecting traffic but if the metal isnt AA or WN then the DFW airport board is not interested in it...

[FlyingPhotog]

DFW will never see a large influx of foreign passenger carriers because they are too busy trying to appease AA and WN, whereas the Houston airport authority realizes they need CO and WN but dont bow down to them...Houston is a perfect example of a Southwest dominated coast-to-coast domestic airport (HOU) and a legacy carrier hub (IAH) that gets along great...

DFW has the business for the international flights in both O&D and connecting traffic but if the metal isnt AA or WN then the DFW airport board is not interested in it...

I don't think DFW can or will ever do anything to appease WN.

[AA 1818]

Ok, I think that as the thread progressed we changed the defination of DFW. In the original post/question he was pinpointing DFW as an airport, but I have to assume that DeltaFlyer was talking about the Dallas/Forth Worth area. By that standard, then you must admit that DFW is designed to run around AA and the same can be said of DAL (for WN). I have seen the war waged over DAL, and if you notice that there are only two main carriers at DAL (AA and WN). Why is it that the managers of both entities did not seek out other carriers? Yes, DFW is a bit more diversified when it comes to carriers serving the airport, and for numerous reasons, but with the repeal of Wright why not advertise DAL as an alternative to DFW (just and IAH did with HOU)? You must admit that without the help of the managers of DAL and with the local government, WN would not have been able to be as successfull as they are in repealing the Wright Ammerndment.


As for LUNN - wow!

[FlyingPhotog]

^^ WN was the driving force in the repeal of the Wright Amendment, not the city of Dallas or Fort Worth. Southwest does of course advertise DAL as a more convenient alternative to DFW. But neither city has much to do with promoting DAL. Now as the new DAL is built that may change.

[ATrude777]

Also to add AA1818, CO also flies to DAL, and WN and CO have a stronger market out of DAL then AA does.

In fact CO has more flights DAL-IAH (15 daily) then they do DFW-IAH(10 daily).


As Paul stated, Fort Worth was AGAINST repeal of the wright amendment, and Dallas certainly didn't bring it into conversation, it was all Southwest Airlines.

So quite honestly it would be wrong to state the word DFW, because Fort Worth wanted nothing to do with DAL Airport in terms of helping it.

Ok sorry
Alex

[AA 1818]

I think that you guys mis-understood me in:

I never doubted that WN was the major force behind repealing the Wright Ammendment, but they could have protested for decades longer, had it not been for the agreements made with DFW and AA. While WN's contribution was major, AA and DFW were crucial in getting the Ammendment repealed in a relitavley timely fashion and to the satisfaction (for the most part) of those involved.