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  • Some very sad news...

    BA now expects to retire the Boeing 747 in February 2024. It will also begin refurbishing an unspecified number of 747s in 2018. The number of Boeing 747s will reduce to 12 by 2022
    https://londonairtravel.com/2017/03/...ng-haul-fleet/

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    • Originally posted by Highkeas View Post
      Some info here an United and Delta:

      United Flies Its Last Boeing 747 Out Of Houston.
      The Houston Chronicle (10/18_) reports that United Airlines flew its last Boeing 747 out of Houston as the airline retires its fleet of the “iconic” aircraft.
      [...]
      Delta Shows Off New Airbus A350 Flagship, Delta One Cabin.
      CNBC (10/18_) profiled Delta Air Lines’ new flagship Airbus A350 airplane, which the company is introducing to help phase out its fleet of Boeing 747 jets. [...]


      Source: AIAA Newsletter dated 10/19/17
      Hm. I have just seen that United has ordered ... 45 (in words: fourty-five) A359, of which not a single one has yet been delivered to O'Hare. I'd say, ok,
      47 years as a member of the 747 club are ALOT, but since I asked Gabriel, what he and me have on the schedule for January 1st 2040, ...
      With that question, I had in mind the D-ABYU. And my answer would be, we should find out a good spotting location for the D-ABYU on that day.

      So many founding members of the 747 club (since 1970) are no longer active in the club today...
      United (1970-2017)
      Air France (1970-2016)
      South African Airways (1971-2010)
      Singapore Airlines (1973-2012)
      Air Canada (1975-2004)
      Cathay Pacific (1980-2016)

      And who'll be next? I think our B763ER friends, flight # 091. They have announced to leave the club still in this year...

      So, who is the US American operator of the very last B747 passenger version?

      Imho, it is good to know that Europe keeps the 747 alive. Ask Erwin.

      And the 359 is a shiny new thing.. The coon.
      Last edited by LH-B744; 2017-12-13, 06:07. Reason: +1
      That's what airlines are good for, amongst others,
      The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
      And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
      Aviation enthusiast, since more than 35 years with home airport EDDL.

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      • Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
        ...............................

        So many founding members of the 747 club (since 1970) are no longer active in the club today...
        United (1970-2017)
        Air France (1970-2016)
        South African Airways (1971-2010)
        Singapore Airlines (1973-2012)
        Air Canada (1975-2004)
        Cathay Pacific (1980-2016)
        ......................................
        Pan American World Airways has to be the premier 747 club member (or ex-member) 1970 - 1991.

        (My first flight was on a Pan Am 707).

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        • BOAC / British Airways is another 'original' operator since 1970, not mentioned above, and will probably maintain some into the early 2020s. .

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          • Cathay Pacific is still technically in the club.

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            • Why is a good aircraft in our country we have some more

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              • Originally posted by Highkeas View Post
                Pan American World Airways has to be the premier 747 club member (or ex-member) 1970 - 1991.

                (My first flight was on a Pan Am 707).
                Yes. It's still fantastic. Ask your favorite search engine for the words 'Pan Am'. I've just tried it, again, only 1 minute ago. The first result still is
                "Pan American World Airways", founded March 1927, by Juan T. Trippe.

                Haven't you seen the (only a rough guess) 150 minute TV documentary "Boeing 747", which imho was made for the 90th birthday of the inventor of it all, Joe Sutter, in 2011?

                Back then, the B747 inventor was still alive, and he talked right into the camera, which were the ideas of Trippe for the new 747 (as it is called since 1965). Heavy stone floors, wing chairs, and a fireplace for the upper deck?! And, I don't have all of these 150 minutes in mind, but I am sure that on March 21st they'll show it again..., but somebody had to tell Trippe, that even a 747 is not a ship. Finally, the whole thing has to take off. So, the younger Sutter had to convince Trippe, who was almost 22 years older than the inventor
                ...

                So, let me again try to be short (with ATLcrew). Yes, Juan T. Trippe founded Pan Am, and in 1965 he ordered a completely new a/c type at the Boeing factory (chief engineer: Sutter). The rest is history, and, a.o. my nickname...

                1927, when Pan Am was founded, another Original opened its doors for the public... One European airport which indeed celebrated 90 years of aviation in 2017...

                It's sad that a real aviation prototype like Pan Am only was able to gather 21 years in the 747 club.

                PS: My first jet flight was on board a LH 737.. -300 or -500. Rather the bigger -300 (inauguration flight 1984), when I take into account what LH today flies on that route... And we'll forever and always compare all flights to that first jet flight, won't we. I was quite lucky, in the cockpit of that LH-B733 there were two men (sorry for all Juniors, but no beginners if you ask me) ... Sometimes you try distinguish the pilots by voice: how many years on an a/c type will they own. The older one sounded at least like 17 years on a 737, "Sullenberger style". And so was the flight, completely uneventful, a real dream.
                As I said, I was lucky on my first jet flight.
                -
                I didn't chose that IATA airline code for nothin... I know what a LH-B737 looked like inflight, before they buried that a/c type.

                But for the Boeing factory, we until today only use 1 a/c type (LH #490)... So I am what I am.

                You see, we probably should continue the conversation near the Boeing factory, or near your home airport. Or this topic must be open for entry #747 ..
                Last edited by LH-B744; 2018-01-16, 01:43. Reason: Aviation prototypes...
                That's what airlines are good for, amongst others,
                The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                Aviation enthusiast, since more than 35 years with home airport EDDL.

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                • Originally posted by LUNN View Post
                  Last 747-100 in the world ends ops, it was serving as a GE test bed.
                  Iran Air Force has some.

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                  • Kuwait Airways have ended 747 service.

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                    • Moved to separae thread

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                      • From today's AIAA Newletter:

                        UPS Signs $5.65 Billion Order For 14 747 Cargo Jets.
                        Bloomberg News (2/1) reports that The Boeing Company won a “$5.65 billion lifeline for the endangered” 747 jumbo jet as UPS has decided to exercise an option to purchase 14 additional aircraft. The deal comes just “weeks after Delta Air Lines Inc. parked the last of its 747 aircraft, marking the end of U.S. passenger service for the iconic humpbacked plane nicknamed the Queen of the Skies.” UPS also will order four Boeing 767 freighters as it “rushes to keep up with growing demand and parlays gains from the recent US corporate tax cut into stepped-up investment.” UPS CEO David Abney said that the tax reforms “made us more optimistic that the economy was going to continue to be clicking,” and spurred the company to exercise its option. The 747 order means that Boeing now will continue production of the 747 “into the 2020s.”


                        Not passenger aircraft but this news would allow airlines to order them.

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                        • Sonair will end 747 ops from April, a/c are operated by Atlas Air.

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                          • Uni-Top also ended 747 ops.

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                            • Originally posted by Highkeas View Post
                              From today's AIAA Newletter:

                              UPS Signs $5.65 Billion Order For 14 747 Cargo Jets.
                              Bloomberg News (2/1) reports that The Boeing Company won a “$5.65 billion lifeline for the endangered” 747 jumbo jet as UPS has decided to exercise an option to purchase 14 additional aircraft. The deal comes just “weeks after Delta Air Lines Inc. parked the last of its 747 aircraft, marking the end of U.S. passenger service for the iconic humpbacked plane nicknamed the Queen of the Skies.” UPS also will order four Boeing 767 freighters as it “rushes to keep up with growing demand and parlays gains from the recent US corporate tax cut into stepped-up investment.” UPS CEO David Abney said that the tax reforms “made us more optimistic that the economy was going to continue to be clicking,” and spurred the company to exercise its option. The 747 order means that Boeing now will continue production of the 747 “into the 2020s.”


                              Not passenger aircraft but this news would allow airlines to order them.
                              Hi again, to the High(air)port.

                              Oh yes. LUNN sometimes said "Bah, what are U lookin for here in my beautiful topic. I only mention airlines who do no longer fly the B747." Ok.

                              But since we all are "Seniors", what does he want to do, against the two of us?

                              There is only 1 domestic a/c type, who brings all the Olympic Heroes back home.. Let's have a look at my avatar...



                              PS: Imho, President Obama made it possible for LH to buy 19 (nineteen) Boeing 747-800 passenger jets,
                              without that German products (e.g. cars?) in the USA only can be delivered with more expense.

                              So, will the next German Boeing order only happen when the next US foreign ministry will be kind again towards companies from overseas?

                              You should not ask me if you want an objective opinion, as since I am here (?!), I am an Obama fan.
                              Last edited by LH-B744; 2018-02-25, 05:58. Reason: Can't somebody bring back Obama?!
                              That's what airlines are good for, amongst others,
                              The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                              And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                              Aviation enthusiast, since more than 35 years with home airport EDDL.

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                              • Are you okay?

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