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  • LUNN
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    Sonair will end 747 ops from April, a/c are operated by Atlas Air.

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  • Highkeas
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    From today's AIAA Newletter:

    UPS Signs $5.65 Billion Order For 14 747 Cargo Jets.
    Bloomberg News (2/1) reports that The Boeing Company won a “$5.65 billion lifeline for the endangered” 747 jumbo jet as UPS has decided to exercise an option to purchase 14 additional aircraft. The deal comes just “weeks after Delta Air Lines Inc. parked the last of its 747 aircraft, marking the end of U.S. passenger service for the iconic humpbacked plane nicknamed the Queen of the Skies.” UPS also will order four Boeing 767 freighters as it “rushes to keep up with growing demand and parlays gains from the recent US corporate tax cut into stepped-up investment.” UPS CEO David Abney said that the tax reforms “made us more optimistic that the economy was going to continue to be clicking,” and spurred the company to exercise its option. The 747 order means that Boeing now will continue production of the 747 “into the 2020s.”


    Not passenger aircraft but this news would allow airlines to order them.

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  • LUNN
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    Moved to separae thread

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  • LUNN
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    Kuwait Airways have ended 747 service.

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  • LUNN
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    Originally posted by LUNN View Post
    Last 747-100 in the world ends ops, it was serving as a GE test bed.
    Iran Air Force has some.

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  • LH-B744
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    Originally posted by Highkeas View Post
    Pan American World Airways has to be the premier 747 club member (or ex-member) 1970 - 1991.

    (My first flight was on a Pan Am 707).
    Yes. It's still fantastic. Ask your favorite search engine for the words 'Pan Am'. I've just tried it, again, only 1 minute ago. The first result still is
    "Pan American World Airways", founded March 1927, by Juan T. Trippe.

    Haven't you seen the (only a rough guess) 150 minute TV documentary "Boeing 747", which imho was made for the 90th birthday of the inventor of it all, Joe Sutter, in 2011?

    Back then, the B747 inventor was still alive, and he talked right into the camera, which were the ideas of Trippe for the new 747 (as it is called since 1965). Heavy stone floors, wing chairs, and a fireplace for the upper deck?! And, I don't have all of these 150 minutes in mind, but I am sure that on March 21st they'll show it again..., but somebody had to tell Trippe, that even a 747 is not a ship. Finally, the whole thing has to take off. So, the younger Sutter had to convince Trippe, who was almost 22 years older than the inventor
    ...

    So, let me again try to be short (with ATLcrew). Yes, Juan T. Trippe founded Pan Am, and in 1965 he ordered a completely new a/c type at the Boeing factory (chief engineer: Sutter). The rest is history, and, a.o. my nickname...

    1927, when Pan Am was founded, another Original opened its doors for the public... One European airport which indeed celebrated 90 years of aviation in 2017...

    It's sad that a real aviation prototype like Pan Am only was able to gather 21 years in the 747 club.

    PS: My first jet flight was on board a LH 737.. -300 or -500. Rather the bigger -300 (inauguration flight 1984), when I take into account what LH today flies on that route... And we'll forever and always compare all flights to that first jet flight, won't we. I was quite lucky, in the cockpit of that LH-B733 there were two men (sorry for all Juniors, but no beginners if you ask me) ... Sometimes you try distinguish the pilots by voice: how many years on an a/c type will they own. The older one sounded at least like 17 years on a 737, "Sullenberger style". And so was the flight, completely uneventful, a real dream.
    As I said, I was lucky on my first jet flight.
    -
    I didn't chose that IATA airline code for nothin... I know what a LH-B737 looked like inflight, before they buried that a/c type.

    But for the Boeing factory, we until today only use 1 a/c type (LH #490)... So I am what I am.

    You see, we probably should continue the conversation near the Boeing factory, or near your home airport. Or this topic must be open for entry #747 ..
    Last edited by LH-B744; 2018-01-16, 01:43. Reason: Aviation prototypes...

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  • dariushbabri
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    Why is a good aircraft in our country we have some more

    طراحی سایت

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  • ATLcrew
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    Cathay Pacific is still technically in the club.

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  • HalcyonDays
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    BOAC / British Airways is another 'original' operator since 1970, not mentioned above, and will probably maintain some into the early 2020s. .

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  • Highkeas
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    Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
    ...............................

    So many founding members of the 747 club (since 1970) are no longer active in the club today...
    United (1970-2017)
    Air France (1970-2016)
    South African Airways (1971-2010)
    Singapore Airlines (1973-2012)
    Air Canada (1975-2004)
    Cathay Pacific (1980-2016)
    ......................................
    Pan American World Airways has to be the premier 747 club member (or ex-member) 1970 - 1991.

    (My first flight was on a Pan Am 707).

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  • LH-B744
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    Originally posted by Highkeas View Post
    Some info here an United and Delta:

    United Flies Its Last Boeing 747 Out Of Houston.
    The Houston Chronicle (10/18_) reports that United Airlines flew its last Boeing 747 out of Houston as the airline retires its fleet of the “iconic” aircraft.
    [...]
    Delta Shows Off New Airbus A350 Flagship, Delta One Cabin.
    CNBC (10/18_) profiled Delta Air Lines’ new flagship Airbus A350 airplane, which the company is introducing to help phase out its fleet of Boeing 747 jets. [...]


    Source: AIAA Newsletter dated 10/19/17
    Hm. I have just seen that United has ordered ... 45 (in words: fourty-five) A359, of which not a single one has yet been delivered to O'Hare. I'd say, ok,
    47 years as a member of the 747 club are ALOT, but since I asked Gabriel, what he and me have on the schedule for January 1st 2040, ...
    With that question, I had in mind the D-ABYU. And my answer would be, we should find out a good spotting location for the D-ABYU on that day.

    So many founding members of the 747 club (since 1970) are no longer active in the club today...
    United (1970-2017)
    Air France (1970-2016)
    South African Airways (1971-2010)
    Singapore Airlines (1973-2012)
    Air Canada (1975-2004)
    Cathay Pacific (1980-2016)

    And who'll be next? I think our B763ER friends, flight # 091. They have announced to leave the club still in this year...

    So, who is the US American operator of the very last B747 passenger version?

    Imho, it is good to know that Europe keeps the 747 alive. Ask Erwin.

    And the 359 is a shiny new thing.. The coon.
    Last edited by LH-B744; 2017-12-13, 06:07. Reason: +1

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  • pawelm
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    Some very sad news...

    BA now expects to retire the Boeing 747 in February 2024. It will also begin refurbishing an unspecified number of 747s in 2018. The number of Boeing 747s will reduce to 12 by 2022
    https://londonairtravel.com/2017/03/...ng-haul-fleet/

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  • Highkeas
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    Some info here an United and Delta:

    United Flies Its Last Boeing 747 Out Of Houston.
    The Houston Chronicle (10/1 reports that United Airlines flew its last Boeing 747 out of Houston as the airline retires its fleet of the “iconic” aircraft. The 747 is being retired in favor of the Boeing 777 ER, “which can fly 16 hours nonstop compared with the 747’s 15 hours. It also burns some 100,000 pounds less fuel.” The airline chose employees for a special farewell flight using a lottery system, which the carrier is also replicating “at hubs around the country before retiring the aircraft on Nov. 7.” United Director of Flight Standards Dean McDavid said, “We celebrate our history. We enjoy our history. And we look forward to new technologies and greener skies.”

    Delta Shows Off New Airbus A350 Flagship, Delta One Cabin.
    CNBC (10/1 profiled Delta Air Lines’ new flagship Airbus A350 airplane, which the company is introducing to help phase out its fleet of Boeing 747 jets. Delta is the first US airline to operate the A350, and will operate “five of the twin-aisle workhorses by the end of the year.” The inaugural route will travel “from Detroit to Tokyo on Oct. 30.” Additional destinations will include “Seoul, Shanghai, Beijing and Amsterdam, which [will] all be flying by next spring, according to Delta.” As part of its coverage, CNBC toured a Delta A350 and detailed the plane’s key features, including the company’s new Delta One business-class cabins.


    Source: AIAA Newsletter dated 10/19/17

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  • Foxtrot
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    Originally posted by HalcyonDays View Post
    Please, the day Lufthansa phases out its 747s can't come soon enough.
    If you're talking about all of its 747s (as in the 748Is also), you'll have to wait a while.

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  • HalcyonDays
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    Please, the day Lufthansa phases out its 747s can't come soon enough.

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