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  • Can't wait to read Evans first post.

    https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/...140121.article

  • #2
    Although the captain realised the aircraft was on the right-hand side of the runway at about 15ft, he opted to apply left rudder input, rather than left roll, to recover. The rudder input shifted the aircraft’s drift angle to the left but made no significant change to the lateral deviation.
    Oh, it didn't!? What a surprise, uh?

    --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
    --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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    • #3
      Obviously, the situation required rapid rudder deflections in both directions leading to PIO and APCs and then stopping the aircraft somewhere and walking away from it.

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      • #4
        But seriously folks, I believe the proper technique when you've lost the edge lights in heavy rain and have no centerline reference and find yourself misaligned 900ft down the runway is to first use thrust. Then pitch. Then flaps. Then gear...

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        • #5
          Remember, every prior landing for these pilots, including a number of challenging ones, was probably “perfect”.

          I totally agree though, that if you are going to have an incident, it’s probably best to go around. If you aren’t going to have an incident, then a go around is not needed.

          Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Evan View Post
            ....first use thrust. Then pitch...
            I never read the book, but I think I’d do the thrust thing and pitch concurrently, sort of like on a bicycle when you lean and turn in a simultaneous and coordinated matter...and for the aeroplanie- a peak at the ASI might be in order, too...

            /ass hat outsider parlour talk.

            Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 3WE View Post

              I never read the book, but I think I’d do the thrust thing and pitch concurrently, sort of like on a bicycle when you lean and turn in a simultaneous and coordinated matter...
              First thrust to get the F/D mode, then pitch to follow it, is, I think, how it is best played. It differs somewhat from a bicycle. Or a Cessna.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Evan View Post

                First thrust to get the F/D mode, then pitch to follow it, is, I think, how it is best played.
                Or click clack paddy whack, give a pilot a plane...
                Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 3WE View Post

                  Or click clack paddy whack, give a pilot a plane...
                  ...and pop goes the edge lights.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Evan View Post

                    ...and pop goes the edge lights.
                    F/D mode has a runway light avoidance feature? I stand in awe.
                    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 3WE View Post

                      F/D mode has a runway light avoidance feature? I stand in awe.
                      Yes, in fact it avoids the entire runway.

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