Another Indonesian aircraft down

[Gabriel]

You must be a very unhappy man! Never a touch of humor or a kind word. Must suck to be so miserable all the time.

Hey, that was a touch of humor. Not a kind word, but some humor, somehow... maybe.

[Evan]

You must be a very unhappy man! Never a touch of humor or a kind word. Must suck to be so miserable all the time.

Actually, not quite sure where your sense of humor just went.

[3WE]

You must be a very unhappy man! Never a touch of humor or a kind word. Must suck to be so miserable all the time.

Nor do we know the joy of riding a bicycle, albeit a VERY risky affair- downhill speeds can easily exceed 30 MPH, the craft is sorely limited in static stability, some limitation in dynamic stability, relatively minimal safety systems, thousands injured yearly, sometimes fatally....

BAN ALL BICYCLES!

[BoeingBobby]

If we were to apply more serious issues it might go something like:

P: automation behaving unexpectedly.
S: automation flagged pending expectation adjustment.

Or

P: aircraft response seems sluggish during rapid rudder reversals.
S: replace nut behind rudder pedals.

You must be a very unhappy man! Never a touch of humor or a kind word. Must suck to be so miserable all the time.

[Evan]

I assume you have seen this. I know that Captain Olson has.

https://aviationhumor.net/pilots-vs-...nce-engineers/

If we were to apply more serious issues it might go something like:

P: automation behaving unexpectedly.
S: automation flagged pending expectation adjustment.

Or

P: aircraft response seems sluggish during rapid rudder reversals.
S: replace nut behind rudder pedals.

[3WE]

Flux gate problem with the dilithium converter.

Indeed.

Also, electrical systems do call for grounding here and there- good move by Boeing.

[Gabriel]

I assume you have seen this. I know that Captain Olson has.

https://aviationhumor.net/pilots-vs-...nce-engineers/

Oh, yea... remember this from my time in college... (90's)

My favorite:

P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.



By the way, it seems to come from the military:

P: IFF inoperative.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics

[BoeingBobby]

More likely a vacuum tube.

I assume you have seen this. I know that Captain Olson has.

https://aviationhumor.net/pilots-vs-...nce-engineers/

[Evan]

Flux gate problem with the dilithium converter.

More likely a vacuum tube.

[Gabriel]

Flux gate problem with the dilithium converter.

Wasn't it the flux capacitor? Oh, never mind, that was in a DMC not in a Boeing.

[BoeingBobby]

Apparently Boeing has grounded some 737-Max aircraft over what is reported to be an electrical system issue. I can't find anything in the FAA AD database. Does anyone know anything more?

Flux gate problem with the dilithium converter.

[Evan]

Apparently Boeing has grounded some 737-Max aircraft over what is reported to be an electrical system issue. I can't find anything in the FAA AD database. Does anyone know anything more?

[Evan]

The memory module from the CVR has been recovered and is being read out. Hopefully, this provides some resolution.

[3WE]

Ignore the fancy technology and control the plane.

I don’t think this is fair. I imagine they were flying fairly competently and doing meaningful things and using the autopilot and throttles appropriately.

What they weren’t doing was 1) a routine instrument scan for power and speed discrepancies and then 2) a quick enough recovery.

TeeVee and I feel they should have been able to recover- no good excuses.

Don’t want to put words in Gabriel’s mouth, but he’s more sympathetic that maybe it all happened too fast...

[Nervous_Flyer]

maybe a bit dated, but i'm pretty sure not much has changed:

https://www.boeing.com/commercial/ae...y/fo01txt.html

Reading the discussion. Probably little in it not known to a qualified pilot. But when disaster strikes, how the pilot reacts is the only knowledge that matters. Bobby and Juan Browne seem to agree. Ignore the fancy technology and control the plane.