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    Podunk traffic, Bizjet 1234DH is inbound, all traffic please leave the area until I am chocked and shut down...

    https://youtu.be/4S6_2d-dV8k
    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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    So he couldn't overfly the airport to get a look and then enter on the 45, slowing to 110-120 and fly a wide downwind to sequence with the other traffic. Oh it's unsafe flying his jet with piston aircraft in the same pattern. It's not uncommon to find aircraft with no com radio doing touch/goes at an un-controlled airport. Perfectly legal. I can remember flying into uncontrolled fields, often with no radio guys in the pattern back when I was flying the Citation X. And then at the Island of Saipan in the Pacific, no tower and many large, including B-747"s, flew in there from Japan all the time.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kent olsen View Post
      ***Perfectly legal***
      He actually over-flew, did his wide pattern, fit in and landed in a slightly busy pattern...

      But his radio communications are a bit entertaining (along with many of the comments on YouTube).

      AND a few valid questions were asked there too!

      Yes, it's perfectly legal, and can be done, but I do think there's a few dangers and that it calls for turning up SA a notch.

      The San Diego PSA 727 + 172 (IN A FULLY-CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT) crash has always bugged me, as the big sky effect failed that day (possibly enhanced by little airliner windows and big speed differentials). (Cue a list of hundreds of other mid-airs.)
      Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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      • #4
        And he lives in Bend. He overflew the airport about 2500ft and then descended into the traffic pattern (with a low wing aircraft, not good). Which is what happened in San Diego (high wing/low wing, plus the 172 was to high), I lived there when it happened. He should have circled out and entered on the 45 at about 1200ft above ground, typical for faster aircraft. Looked like lots of helicopters in a right pattern but only about three planes in left traffic for the runway. Oh! but he's flying a JET!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kent olsen View Post
          So he couldn't overfly the airport to get a look and then enter on the 45, slowing to 110-120 and fly a wide downwind to sequence with the other traffic. Oh it's unsafe flying his jet with piston aircraft in the same pattern. It's not uncommon to find aircraft with no com radio doing touch/goes at an un-controlled airport. Perfectly legal. I can remember flying into uncontrolled fields, often with no radio guys in the pattern back when I was flying the Citation X. And then at the Island of Saipan in the Pacific, no tower and many large, including B-747"s, flew in there from Japan all the time.
          Without that I opened the video, your description seems to be very brilliant. I can imagine it, without the video.

          I often have to say to myself, not everybody lives near an International airport, where B763ER, B773ER, et cetera, is the everyday business...

          So, what did he do, forced a 747 to go into the active speed brake? Probably I should also open that video.

          PS: Speed brake, in German? So, we all know what I mean. Not the pedals, but the brake which is used when still in the air. That's why I sometimes call it
          the air brake switch.
          Last edited by LH-B744; 2021-07-11, 23:25. Reason: Flaps and so on.
          The German long haul is alive, since more than 60 years.
          The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
          And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
          This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.

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