United 777 dives after departure from Maui

[xspeedy]

https://news.yahoo.com/united-airlin...ycsrp_catchall

https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/united-airlines-777-dives-after-departure/

The flight data shows the plane took off at 2:49 p.m. local time and rose to an altitude of 2,200 feet when it suddenly took a dive and dropped to 775 feet over the Pacific Ocean.

The plunge saw the plane dip at a vertical rate of nearly 8,600 feet per minute, according to the data.

The flight recovered and regained an altitude of 2,350 feet shortly after, the dive and recovery making up less than a minute, based on the data.

[Gabriel]

https://news.yahoo.com/united-airlin...ycsrp_catchall

https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/united-airlines-777-dives-after-departure/

The flight data shows the plane took off at 2:49 p.m. local time and rose to an altitude of 2,200 feet when it suddenly took a dive and dropped to 775 feet over the Pacific Ocean.

The plunge saw the plane dip at a vertical rate of nearly 8,600 feet per minute, according to the data.

The flight recovered and regained an altitude of 2,350 feet shortly after by pulling up 2.75G and climbing at 8000+ fpm, the dive and recovery making up less than a minute, based on the data.

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[Gabriel]

That incident happened in December 18

On different news, on January 10 a Qatar Airways Boeing 787 took off from Doha climbed to 1800 ft, and descended at peak 3000 fpm, before being recovered at some 800 ft.

http://avherald.com/h?article=504d75c7&opt=0

[Evan]

by pulling up 2.75G and climbing at 8000+ fpm,

"That's one nice thing about the 777. It can do everything but read."

Might be the forgotten ladders moving about in the fuselage...

[kent olsen]

News tonight said the crew was a new Captain and a new hire FO. I believe they took off in some wx and possibly flew into a sever down draft. They were reported disoriented. Remember the 737 that crashed on arrival into Colorado Springs many years ago, when they flew into a sever down draft caused by a thunder storm. Maybe similar. A United instructor reported a new hire while in the sim, landed half of his first 25 landing in the dirt.

The news reported many airlines have really lowered their requirements just to replace crew members that are leaving/retiring.

I remember flying with a new FO in the DC-9 many years ago. He didn't pay much attention to what was going on. I asked him why he seemed bored. He said he didn't much care for flying. When I asked why he was a pilot? He said I do it because of the time off. Said he lived in the NE part of Calif and had a home on one of those water ski lakes in his front yard. That was what he liked to do.

[xspeedy]

I remember flying with a new FO in the DC-9 many years ago. He didn't pay much attention to what was going on. I asked him why he seemed bored. He said he didn't much care for flying. When I asked why he was a pilot? He said I do it because of the time off. Said he lived in the NE part of Calif and had a home on one of those water ski lakes in his front yard. That was what he liked to do.

I would love to fly, but with all the automation it looks more like operating a CNC machine. You want a certain FL and you turn a knob. Same for heading changes. I wouldn’t find driving interesting if I had automation in a car and my “driving” amounted to programming in a destination and taking over for manual control once in the mall parking lot.

[Gabriel]

Remember the 737 that crashed on arrival into Colorado Springs many years ago, when they flew into a sever down draft caused by a thunder storm.

I am not aware of such a crash. Aren't you mixing United 585 (rudder hardover, Colorado Springs arrival) and Delta 191 (crashed in windshear / microburst arriving a DFW)?
Just to be clear, it is absolutely possible that there was another 737 crash at Colorado Spring that I am not aware of. But if so I want to know about it.

[kent olsen]

Mother Nature can do strange thinks and the wind will surprise you.

Short final, maybe 100ft, landing a 747 in Pago Pago for fuel, the bottom completely drops out from underneath me. Max power and pull the wheel back and I just caught it as the wheels touch. Scottsdale AZ in a Citation X, same thing. Bottom drops out at 50-100ft. Max power and pull back just as the wheels touch. Passengers commented on my smooth landing. If they only knew.

Maybe a down draft or the wind changes 90 degrees, hard to tell when it happens in 2-3 seconds.

[Evan]

Mother Nature can do strange thinks and the wind will surprise you.

Short final, maybe 100ft, landing a 747 in Pago Pago for fuel, the bottom completely drops out from underneath me. Max power and pull the wheel back and I just caught it as the wheels touch. Scottsdale AZ in a Citation X, same thing. Bottom drops out at 50-100ft. Max power and pull back just as the wheels touch. Passengers commented on my smooth landing. If they only knew.

Maybe a down draft or the wind changes 90 degrees, hard to tell when it happens in 2-3 seconds.

Microburst airline accidents are rare on takeoff, but Pan Am Flight 759 is one exception. But that one happened at around 150ft over the runway. I've never heard of this happening at over 2000' during climb. I would think the mighty 777 already at that power setting could deal with it. Maybe it did. There's a first time for everything.