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  • Cathay Pacific Grounds All A350 After TrentXWB Engine Fire

    Apparently, there is a design, quality control or maintenance issue involving a flexible fuel line. This could potentially become a worldwide A350 grounding/inspection.

    Originally posted by Aviation Herald
    According to information The Aviation Herald received a flexible fuel line was damaged, damaged flexible fuel lines were also found in engines of other A350 aircraft during the inspections.
    Aviation Herald - News, Incidents and Accidents in Aviation

  • #2
    but still only Cathay pacific's a350 discovered engine problem, looks like a maintenance fault to me.

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    • #3
      Hopefully, but an AD calling for inspections over the next week or two wouldn’t kill anyone. Maintenance errors are not always isolated to one operator.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by thor View Post
        but still only Cathay pacific's a350 discovered engine problem, looks like a maintenance fault to me.
        Well, it looks that only Cathay pacific did this specific inspection after the initial event, so it's not surprising that only Cathay Pacific found it if they are the only one that looked for it.

        --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
        --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gabriel View Post

          Well, it looks that only Cathay pacific did this specific inspection after the initial event, so it's not surprising that only Cathay Pacific found it if they are the only one that looked for it.
          Exactly. Some things can be predicted and some things must reveal themselves, but once they have, they become predictable.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gabriel View Post

            Well, it looks that only Cathay pacific did this specific inspection after the initial event.
            There was a similar event with a Cathay aircraft just four days earlier. CX-431 rejected takeoff due to an engine fire on August 31. Trent 772 vs Trent XWB though. Generalized engine maintenance issue at Cathay perhaps?

            Singapore Airlines has confirmed it's inspecting:
            SIA checking Rolls-Royce engines in A350 planes; 15 Cathay Pacific jets with parts to be changed | The Straits Times

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Evan View Post
              Hopefully, but an AD calling for inspections over the next week or two wouldn’t kill anyone. Maintenance errors are not always isolated to one operator.
              That's not how ADs work. They're not issued based upon what "won't kill anyone", more like on whether if anyone will did die if they are NOT issued. You know this, of course, but, since the A350 already has a whole pile of guarded switches, an AD is your next go-to.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ATLcrew View Post

                That's not how ADs work. They're not issued based upon what "won't kill anyone", more like on whether if anyone will did die if they are NOT issued. You know this, of course, but, since the A350 already has a whole pile of guarded switches, an AD is your next go-to.
                I do know this, or course (Couldn't find the blue font). What I don't know is what caused this flexible fuel line to fail. If it involves the design itself... AD. If it involves a maintenance procedure that might have been used by multiple operators... AD. If it involves the installation of an inferior part from a certain manufacturer... AD. If it involves a guy named Jerry who's been over-tightening fittings while strung out on meth in the Cathay Pacific hanger... we needn't bother with an AD.

                But a fuel line leak that causes an in-flight fire indication is a very serious thing. If the circumstances that led to it might be present across the A350 fleet, an AD for inspection (within a low amount of cycles) would be in order. You know this, of course.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ATLcrew View Post

                  That's not how ADs work. They're not issued based upon what "won't kill anyone", more like on whether if anyone will did die if they are NOT issued.
                  Many times, that's not how they work either. Many times the inspection part of the AD informs the authorities about the real extent and risk of the issue.

                  --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
                  --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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                  • #10
                    A&D, that's what I used to put on my son's butt when he was a baby.

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                    • #11
                      Current status:

                      Cathay Pacific: Inspected. 15 aircraft had the defect. 6 repaired. 9 in progress
                      Singapore Airlines: Inspections in progress. No results yet
                      Japan Airlines: Inspections in progress. All 350-1000s completed. 10 of 15 350-900s completed. No defects found.
                      Qatar: Inspected. No defects found.
                      British Airways: Declined to comment.
                      Air China: General checks only
                      Starlux: Seeking advice from RR.
                      Air France: Ditto
                      Lufthansa: Ditto
                      Delta. Regular maintenance schedule only.
                      Thai Airways. Regular maintenance schedule only.

                      EASA to issue Emergency AD
                      EASA To Issue Airbus A350 Engine Emergency AD | Aviation Week Network

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                      • #12
                        Ah yes, EASA’s old go-to, the AD. Comments, ATL?

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                        • #13
                          EAD 2024-0174-E published, effective date September 9. Compliance time is 3 days for some engines, 7 days for others.

                          https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2024-0174-E​​

                          EASA Airworthiness Directives Publishing Tool

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Evan View Post
                            Ah yes, EASA’s old go-to, the AD. Comments, ATL?
                            Sincere congratulations! You know the saying about broken clocks and blind squirrels, of course.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ATLcrew View Post

                              Sincere congratulations! You know the saying about broken clocks and blind squirrels, of course.
                              No, but I know what you say about me, which is not always deserved. What was that you were saying to BoeingBobby about respecting others rather than just writing them off as idiots?

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