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ABC reports the Lear 35 veered off the runway during landing.
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Looks like the left main gear collapsed. -
G200 was N199DF. Looks like the 35A skidded right past one of my preferred spotting locations at SDL.Comment
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I suppose that the left-seat pilot is the one fatality?
And 4 injured, 1 of them serious or critical (depending on the news source), 2 of them treated at the scene, one declined treatment at the scene.
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yo why are there so many aircraft accidents happening latelyComment
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Coincidence. The accidents are totally unrelated to each other. It was just a statistically bad month.Originally posted by Tydirium View Post
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Preliminary NTSB report confirms:Originally posted by bstolle View Post
Clearly a serious, and ultimately deadly, maintenance oversight.Comment
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If I were the second passenger, I might feel a bit under-appreciated. The right-seated passenger eventually was able to remove the right emergency exit and at 1448:37, with the right engine still running, she egressed over the right wing carrying two small dogs. She then turned back and went to retrieve the second passenger.Comment
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Did you read the previous sentence?Originally posted by Evan View Post
If I was the first passenger, you would feel even more underappreciated because I would have just left you there, I will not risk my life because you act like an idiot. Had yo not been, you would likely have been ok to deplane yourself.
Who in their right mind doesn't wear a seat belt on a plane all the time while seated, let alone for take-off and landing?the right-seated passenger (wearing a seatbelt) regained consciousness first and woke up the left-seated passenger who had been thrown forward in the passenger cabin.
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We’re the two dogs wearing their seat belts? Or do detect a double standard…Originally posted by Gabriel View PostComment
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Seriously? So the bolt wasn't through the trunnion pin to secure it? The installer put the bolt in first and basically bottomed the pin on it? Or the pin went in first and wasn't fully seated such the bolt missed the hole. I wouldn't trust that guy to fix my toaster.Comment
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Apparently not the first time either. Hopefully the last, now that the consequences have their full attention.Comment
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No double standards. You don't use the seatbelt, especially for landing, your ability to reason, think, analyze situations, and foresee the consequence of your actions (or inactions) are comparable with that of dogs at best.Originally posted by Evan View Post
But I would have more empathy for the dogs. Dogs lack opposing thumbs so they cannot put their own seatbelt even if they wanted to.
Now that I said this... please don't tell me that the passenger without a seatbelt was a young minor that would need help from an adult (or at least older minor / teen) to see the risks and to put their seatbelt. Because in that case, my opinions of pax1 and pax2 change radically, almost invert.
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The identities of these passengers has been kept out of the press, but there was a mention that they were friends. I'm just pointing out that, when your friend saves the dogs first and then comes back for you, you might want to re-evaluate that friendship. Then again, dogs are perhaps man's (and women's) best friend. I'd maybe save the dogs first too. You never know until it happens to you. (I rarely travel on private jets with two small dogs, so I probably will never know).Originally posted by Gabriel View PostComment
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Let's make a deal. next time both of us travel together in a bizjet with two dogs, wear your seatbelt and if you still need to be saved I will save you before I save my dogs.
All that said, you are taking this too seriously. In my mind a human life, even if it is a stranger, always takes precedence over a dog, even if it's my dog.
BUT DO WEAR A SEAT BELT FOR LANDING, OK? If not I will save you first just so as I can kill you.
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