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  • MaxPower
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    Hmmmrrrrp.. I wonder what is the proper values for V1, VR and V2 for B767's, values as in how many knots. ?? I presume that one have to count includes MTOW ? Just curious..!

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  • Genessee
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    Originally posted by atcvector
    Nobody would ever consider filling the tires with oxygen in the first place. Airplanes with innertubes (most piston powered light aircraft) use plain compressed air the the tires. Airplanes with tubeless tires use nitrogen because of the anti corrosion properties. Nitrogen is not used for fire prevention in tires. What is your source for this belief?
    Both Goodyear and Michelin's aviation tire web sites mention the benefits of "dry nitrogen gas" in one place or another. One of which states the gas will "not sustain combustion". That wording is from the Goodyear site.

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  • atcvector
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    Originally posted by ACman
    Well its one of the reasons why. Oxygen would heat up way to fast on the ground due to friction.
    Nobody would ever consider filling the tires with oxygen in the first place. Airplanes with innertubes (most piston powered light aircraft) use plain compressed air the the tires. Airplanes with tubeless tires use nitrogen because of the anti corrosion properties. Nitrogen is not used for fire prevention in tires. What is your source for this belief?
    Last edited by atcvector; 2006-09-26, 20:56. Reason: spelling error

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  • ACman
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    Originally posted by atcvector
    Sorry but that is not the reason. there is enough other things down there to catch fire, hydraulic lines, tires etc... The tires are filled with nitrogen because nitrogen is a very dry gas. This greatly helps control corrosion problems inside the aluminum or magnesium wheels. I am sure that there are a couple of other reasons but fire prevention is not one of them.
    Well its one of the reasons why. Oxygen would heat up way to fast on the ground due to friction.

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  • Crunk415balla
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    Originally posted by LRJet Guy
    Tires are filled with nitrogen due to the moisture content of compressed air. If you filled them up with compressed air, you could end up with blocks of ice in the tires. Might make them a little out of balance on landing.
    I was wondering about that, thanks for the explanation as to why they are filled with nitrogen.

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  • Chris@YYZ
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    Originally posted by RingwaySam
    Well, actually he is. I saw a post of his video on a.net but he was getting abused by the members so he removed the video, fortuently he didn't take it off the net
    ROFL!

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  • LRJet Guy
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    Tires are filled with nitrogen due to the moisture content of compressed air. If you filled them up with compressed air, you could end up with blocks of ice in the tires. Might make them a little out of balance on landing.

    Yes, they guy in the video is an asshat. (good one) Lynching him though? Come on guys, it's way more fun to poke fun of someone that's alive. I'm sorry I missed my chance to flame him on the other site.

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  • Cam
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    I trust all your judgments, but is there anything online that explains it in more detail.

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    A good point I would like to make. Earlier on in his statement, he said that he was an "airline brat" and that he knew "What was going on in the cockpit at any given point". If he knew what was going on, how did he miss the fact that it was a problem with the landing gear....
    Hmmm, good job douche...keep plugging away those dollars for flights, you may have more time than a certified pilot, but the pilot of that 763 probably makes more than you ever will in your lifetime......I wonder if he would be willing to sell any of his Star Wars collection, or Battlestar Galactica dolls...

    "A passenger saw an Asiana 767...." yea, ok...and I just passed Santa on the freeway....

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  • Mungous
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    ^ both reasons sound right; Nitrogen is inert (unreactive) therefore doesn't corrode. If the tyres had oxygen in them, they won't catch fire themselves but might intensify any existing fires if they burst.

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  • atcvector
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    Originally posted by ACman
    Yup, with oxygen in them, they would catch fire.
    Sorry but that is not the reason. there is enough other things down there to catch fire, hydraulic lines, tires etc... The tires are filled with nitrogen because nitrogen is a very dry gas. This greatly helps control corrosion problems inside the aluminum or magnesium wheels. I am sure that there are a couple of other reasons but fire prevention is not one of them.

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  • ptbodale
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    Originally posted by JordanD
    Are you trying to get him to kill himself?
    hahaha, either that or he will want to strangle the video maker.

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  • JordanD
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    Originally posted by ptbodale
    I'm not a MTC guy, but I think that was the thumping. I'll try to get the Mtc Mgr behind me to listen to the video.
    Are you trying to get him to kill himself?

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  • ptbodale
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    I'm not a MTC guy, but I think that was the thumping. I'll try to get the Mtc Mgr behind me to listen to the video.

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  • RingwaySam
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    Originally posted by ptbodale
    2nd - Fin 684, AC036 rejected take-off at 155 knots as the flight crew received an Eicas message advising them of "gear failure". They elected to abort the take-off. Four tires were blown during the stop. The acft was never in any danger. The inspection found that a "gear seal' had failed.
    Thanks Dale! Is that was caused the thumping just befor the aborted takeoff when the guy says V1?

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  • ACman
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    Originally posted by Cam
    Are commercial planes wheels filled with air or nitrogen?

    Yup, with oxygen in them, they would catch fire.

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