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  • #16
    Originally posted by Princess Leia
    Time to start this thread up again. We were up to 200-201 written off in the time period of 2000-AD.com crash.

    Newest one: AN-12 vs. 727 in Congo, Brake failure on taxi, Jan 25.


    Ouch. That doesn't look like fun. And the nose gear ont he 727--they're not supposed to rotate that far, are they? Think that happened when it got hit?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Brad1711
      Ouch. That doesn't look like fun. And the nose gear ont he 727--they're not supposed to rotate that far, are they? Think that happened when it got hit?
      Yes. The nose gear will steer 89 degrees either side of center. I used to park a -200 on the blast fence for overnight parking. In theory we were to stop the aircraft and use a tug to push it onto the blast fence. I was working one night when there was only three of us on duty. With two of us manning the cockpit and the other providing ground signals, I taxied the aircraft straight into the blast fence with the right main gear on the parking center line. When the nose was about 10 feet from the fence, I cranked in all 89 degrees of steering toward the right and spun the aircraft 180 degrees. The turn stopped with the aircraft centered over the line with the nose 5 feet short of the spot. I let it roll forward to the spot. The left wing cleared the fence by >20 feet.

      Note: Don't try it on a slick ramp!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dmmoore
        Yes. The nose gear will steer 89 degrees either side of center. I used to park a -200 on the blast fence for overnight parking. In theory we were to stop the aircraft and use a tug to push it onto the blast fence. I was working one night when there was only three of us on duty. With two of us manning the cockpit and the other providing ground signals, I taxied the aircraft straight into the blast fence with the right main gear on the parking center line. When the nose was about 10 feet from the fence, I cranked in all 89 degrees of steering toward the right and spun the aircraft 180 degrees. The turn stopped with the aircraft centered over the line with the nose 5 feet short of the spot. I let it roll forward to the spot. The left wing cleared the fence by >20 feet.

        Note: Don't try it on a slick ramp!
        Oh okay. Didn't know they turned that far. I'm used to little stuff where we only get 20 degrees either side of center.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Princess Leia
          By the way, it's Canadian Airways Congo, a cargo airline not registered in Canada but in Congo (not former Zaire, but the other Congo). According to Jacdec, the aircraft is a total loss. The aircraft is owned by Teebah, who had previously operated it for Iraqi, and as you can see it's still in the latter's colors.

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          • #20
            Originally Posted by Princess Leia
            Better add the scorecard. Not updated since the old forum, but I think we're pretty close.

            AN-8: 2
            AN-12: 46**
            AN-24: 2**
            AN-26: 26** (including the may 2009 cigarette shipping AN-26).
            AN-28: 11**
            AN-32: 19**
            AN/Iran-140:3 (Itīs a design after USSR, but still included)**.
            AN72/74: 4
            IL-18: 8
            IL-38: 2
            IL-62: 2
            IL-76: 27 (3 probable write-offs, not sure)**
            IL-86: 2
            Let 410: 40* (one more rumored crash in DRC not included)
            MA-60:1**
            TU-134: 6
            TU-154: 9
            Yak-40: 6
            Yak-42: 1
            *Updated by Princess
            **Updated by Alessandro

            Total comes to 217** aircraft Last update in May 2009.
            [Quote Spacepope/Princess Leia]
            This scorecard is for crashes after 1992, when USSR/Comecon dissappeared involving their aircraft designs.
            Since last update Il-76 and AN-12 been suffering from a few crashes, things has calmed down for the Let-410, not a write-off in over a year. Is most of them grounded or are they so few left? Also same with the Tu-134, Tu-154, YAK-40 and YAK-42. I included the Chinese MA-60 since itīs a licensed version of Antonov.
            "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Dmmoore View Post
              Yes. The nose gear will steer 89 degrees either side of center. I used to park a -200 on the blast fence for overnight parking. In theory we were to stop the aircraft and use a tug to push it onto the blast fence. I was working one night when there was only three of us on duty. With two of us manning the cockpit and the other providing ground signals, I taxied the aircraft straight into the blast fence with the right main gear on the parking center line. When the nose was about 10 feet from the fence, I cranked in all 89 degrees of steering toward the right and spun the aircraft 180 degrees. The turn stopped with the aircraft centered over the line with the nose 5 feet short of the spot. I let it roll forward to the spot. The left wing cleared the fence by >20 feet.
              Don, you're my hero!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Alessandro View Post
                Originally Posted by Princess Leia
                Better add the scorecard. Not updated since the old forum, but I think we're pretty close.

                AN-8: 2
                AN-12: 47**
                AN-24: 2**
                AN-26: 26** (including the may 2009 cigarette shipping AN-26).
                AN-28: 11**
                AN-32: 19**
                AN/Iran-140:3 (Itīs a design after USSR, but still included)**.
                AN72/74: 4
                IL-18: 8
                IL-38: 2
                IL-62: 2
                IL-76: 27 (3 probable write-offs, not sure)**
                IL-86: 2
                Let 410: 40* (one more rumored crash in DRC not included)
                MA-60:1**
                TU-134: 6
                TU-154: 10**
                Yak-40: 6
                Yak-42: 1
                *Updated by Princess
                **Updated by Alessandro

                Total comes to 219** aircraft Last update in August 2009.
                [Quote Spacepope/Princess Leia]
                This scorecard is for crashes after 1992, when USSR/Comecon dissappeared involving their aircraft designs.
                Since last update Il-76 and AN-12 been suffering from a few crashes, things has calmed down for the Let-410, not a write-off in over a year. Is most of them grounded or are they so few left? Also same with the Tu-134, YAK-40 and YAK-42. I included the Chinese MA-60 since itīs a licensed version of Antonov.
                Iran crash added.
                Congo-Brazzaville crash added.
                "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Alessandro View Post
                  Iran crash added.
                  Congo-Brazzaville crash added.
                  At the AN-12 crashes.
                  "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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