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  • Air France plane missing?

    didn't see any thread here...

    news story

    Does anyone have updates?

  • #2
    BBC are reporting the same, it is overdue in Paris:
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    F-GZCP from what I can establish.
    Last edited by AJ; 2009-06-01, 10:18.


    • #3
      Here is an update from CNN. Unfortunately it is not looking very optimistic.


      • #4
        It's AF447, GIG-CDG, A332 with 228 onboard.

        CNN is reporting that the Brazilian military has begun a search&rescue, and that Paris is now opening a crisis center... this isn't good
        Us, lighting a living horse on fire:

        Check it out!


        • #5
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          • #6
            Departure at 22.00 GMT, contact lost 06.00 GMT, where would that put the plane, roughly? Canary islands?
            I now see on the CNN report:
            "Reports said an air force search and rescue operation was underway around the Brazilian island of Fernando de Noronha, 365 kilometers (226 miles) off the mainland."
            That doesn't tally with the 8 hours flown from 22-06.
            Last edited by ultraflight; 2009-06-01, 10:52. Reason: New info


            • #7
              French media also states that the airplane disappeared from radar screens at about 300 km distance to the brazilian coast.

              228 personnes, dont une majorité de Brésiliens et de Français, se trouvaient à bord de l'appareil d'Air France qui a disparu, lundi matin, au large du Brésil.

              According to the above linked article in french airport sources at Paris (confirmed by Air France) said that they do not have any hope for flight AF 447.

              Also they mention that the lost contact could be due to a defect of the transponder, but as the airplane is 2 hours overdue now I doubt that this could be the (sole) explanation.

              Said news!


              • #8

                according to this ACARS data the missing plane seems to be F-GZCP (Airbus A332). The Airbus seemed to be pretty new (Delivery Date: 2005-04-18 )

                ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: F-GZCP [Airbus A332]
                Message label: _ Block id: 0 Msg no: S72A
                Flight id: AF0447 [GIG-CDG] [Air France]
                ----------------------------------------------------------[ 01/06/2009 00:53 ]-

                Photos of F-GZCP in the database

                Last edited by MLidzba; 2009-06-01, 11:47.


                • #9
                  According to this - short - german news site mentioning [,00.html ] the plane "also disappeared from military radar" (also I can not state the difference). It also says that according to the brazilian airforce the plane was about 300 km north-east of the coastal town of Natal when it disappeared from radar.


                  • #10
                    Very bad news.


                    • #11
                      Air France via SkyNews says the ATC lost contact with AC ~30 min after takeoff.
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                      • #12
                        There are two or three things that are definitive - the aircraft missed a radio position report somewhere around Fernão de Noronha Islands, about 190 nautical milles off the Brasilian Coast, about 1,000 miles from the departure airport, something like 3 hours into flight time.


                        • #13
                          The A332 is 180 ETOPS (at least). Does ETOPS routing for this flight allow a direct track across the south Atlantic?fficeffice" />>>
                          Keep praying for these folks>>



                          • #14
                            CBC News at 8:00 (EDT) reported that Air France had received a message from the plane "early in the flight" that there was an "electrical problem."

                            EDIT: later reported that an automatic message was received (at 10:14??) after the plane had passed throught severe turbulence
                            Last edited by ArmchairPilot; 2009-06-01, 12:15. Reason: More information later in the news


                            • #15
                              The reports of turbulence and electrical faults are very similar to the reports after QF72 diverted to Learmonth after an ADIRU fault.