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As much information as possible needs to be relayed to the Captain to assist in the decision. In this case the crew cannot see the flames and it is unlikely that the wheel well fire detector had been activated immediately (or at all?). Therefore they have to rely on external information from ATC, fire tenders, ground vehicles or other aircraft. If any of these said the word 'fire' the response would be immediate. 'Smoke' would lead to a request for more information.
Chris and Carlos were more aware of what was happening to the right main gear than the Captain was by the sounds of it!
That is kind of what I was supposing. I was certain that passengers on the right side of the aircraft could see the fire/smoke, but also aware that there's no way the guys up front could have known without being told. I wish I'd had an airband at the time (or a LiveATC archive to go back and listen to).. would be interesting to hear how things went down on the twr freq as this all unfolded.
The decision to evacuate is a very difficult and complex one. It will often result in injuries to thus far unharmed passengers.
As much information as possible needs to be relayed to the Captain to assist in the decision. In this case the crew cannot see the flames and it is unlikely that the wheel well fire detector had been activated immediately (or at all?). Therefore they have to rely on external information from ATC, fire tenders, ground vehicles or other aircraft. If any of these said the word 'fire' the response would be immediate. 'Smoke' would lead to a request for more information.
Chris and Carlos were more aware of what was happening to the right main gear than the Captain was by the sounds of it!
Why the hell are those people evacuating with their carry on bags? And then they kind of just hang around next to the plane, run away fools!!
Also why does the tail cone fall off?
Tailcone gets jetisoned as soon as the rear door is opened (when armed of course.) FA's next job, when the inner door is open and the tailcone is gone, is to assess conditions, and if fire, smoke, debris or obstruction is seen, to direct the passengers to another exit. Clearly smoke would have been seen here, probably from well inside the cabin, which is why the slide never gets deployed. Reading on other forums it would appear they only had 43 psgrs on board, so 1L, 2L could easily handle the evac. It doesn't look like either of the O/W exits were used on the left side.
EDIT: The tailcone falling is supposed to pull a wire that deploys the slide. It would appear this didn't happen here - the tailcone is just left hanging by that wire. That is when the FA has the option of deploying it manually or redirecting psgrs. As the smoke would clearly have been visible - in fact if you look at the video, as soon as the cone pops the smoke starts billowing INTO the hole, the correct decision was made to redirect.
The MD88 relies on gravity to shake the tailcone free, the MD90 uses a charge to detonate it off.
Well - definitely NOT the way to evacuate... Does anybody know the registration of the poor MD?
By the way - as far as I know Delta flies only MD-88s and no MD-83s.
DL operates MD88 and MD90.
Definitely not a textbook evac! Does anyone know what flight this was?
EDIT: OK I found this was DL2284 PIT/ATL. Hits a bit close to home this - my wife, 3 children and I live in PIT and were non-revving the same route on 25th. We had to split because the flights were so full.
Watched this happen live from the balcony of my room at the Renaissance Hotel. Was looking down at my phone as this MD-88 touched down and heard two loud bangs.. knew the tires had burst from the incredibly loud noise; looked up and saw the airplane going down the runway with smoke/fire coming from the right main gear. The PF took the first high speed turnoff at a faster-than-normal speed and brought the plane to a stop clear of 8L. Of course, lots of go arounds and sidesteps to 8R followed.
What really shocked me was how long it took for both the evac to begin, and for fire/rescue to arrive. At least 4-5 minutes. Buddy and I were on the balcony filming, shooting pics, and commenting to each other several minutes after the airplane had stopped that we couldn't believe they weren't evacuating yet, what with the growing fire and black smoke coming from under the right wing.
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