Malaysia T7 down!!

[Leftseat86]

I have been away for several weeks and not following this thread for awhile, so sorry if this has been posted, but if not:

Look at the landing gear, doesn't that write "MRC"??! (MH17 was MRD)

It is a D, there is just some glare that makes it look like a C. The conspiracy theorists jumped on that one.

According to my dutch friends the person's facebook post was public and the photo in question was littered with comments from their friends & family expressing shock and horror that they were actually on the flight in question.

[pdeboer]

Publication preliminary report MH17

The Dutch Safety Board will issue the preliminary report on the investigation into the crash of MH17 on Tuesday 9 September 2014. The preliminary report will be available at www.safetyboard.nl at 10:00 AM local time Amsterdam (08:00 hours UTC).

http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/en/onderzoek/2049/investigation-crash-mh17-17-july-2014

[EconomyClass]

Wasn't the deposed president the real fascist?

[Robem]

One MH17 passenger was found with oxygen mask, Frans Timmermans, Foreign Affairs Minister of The Netherlands told in Dutch TV talkshow "Pauw" yesterday night.

http://pauw.vara.nl/nieuws/slachtoff...asker-gevonden

[sjwk]

And a BBC article (in English) reporting on the speech by the Dutch minister:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29548942

[Evan]

Strange dialog. If the question is, "Did the passengers experience a last moment of terror?", the answer is almost definitely yes. If the question is. "How prolonged was that moment", I fail to see the reason for this question, other than a misery-porn fetish among the public.

The plane didn't 'pop' out of existence. It was torn apart by aerodynamic forces, and the passengers lost consciousness probably in less than a half a minute. And although that would be a terrible half a minute, it would be enough to don a mask at least.

There is also the possibility that the passenger was already wearing the mask due to some unexpected medical issue before the flight was struck.

But what difference does any of this make? This is as evil and horrible as it gets. There's no point in making it more horrible.

[AVION1]

Russian TV is claiming they have a satellite picture, showing an ukranian airplane intercepting and destroying MH17. Is anyone else following this news today?:

[Highkeas]

Russian TV is claiming they have a satellite picture, showing an ukranian airplane intercepting and destroying MH17. Is anyone else following this news today?:

Interesting picture review here:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1610260/malaysia-airlines-mh17-shootdown-russian/

and here which describe the aircraft as a 767

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-this-photo-shows-a-ukraine-mig-29-shot-down-mh17.5107/

[Evan]

Russian TV is claiming they have a satellite picture, showing an ukranian airplane intercepting and destroying MH17. Is anyone else following this news today?:

That's a 767.

[ErwinS]

Fighter is clearly a Su-27. And a AA missile shot on such short range? Yeah right:$

[kris]

Russian TV is claiming they have a satellite picture, showing an ukranian airplane intercepting and destroying MH17. Is anyone else following this news today?:

Come on... just compare sizes, or size of the airliner and size of the underlying terrain features. The photo would have to be taken from a distance of 500 feet or so for the plane to appear that big (it would look differently, though).
That bright line left of and below the airliner is the Donetsk Sergey Prokofiev International Airport runway 8/26 = 13123 ft according to Wikipedia.
It doesn't make sense.

[AVION1]

Come on... just compare sizes, or size of the airliner and size of the underlying terrain features. The photo would have to be taken from a distance of 500 feet or so for the plane to appear that big (it would look differently, though).
That bright line left of and below the airliner is the Donetsk Sergey Prokofiev International Airport runway 8/26 = 13123 ft according to Wikipedia.
It doesn't make sense.

Looks like a weather satellite picture, and a Google Earth picture "photoshopped" together.

[brianw999]

Not to mention that the airline title is in the wrong place to be Malaysian. No contrail shown either from an aircraft at 33,000 feet ?

[AVION1]

Not to mention that the airline title is in the wrong place to be Malaysian. No contrail shown either from an aircraft at 33,000 feet ?

Yes, I agree. There is something wrong with that picture.

[kris]

Fighter is clearly a Su-27. And a AA missile shot on such short range? Yeah right:$

The distance between "planes" on this "photo" is about 30 miles. The fighter plane is circa 2000 ft long, while the airliner is a bit longer... maybe 16 000 ft.