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  • Drones Sighted by Pilots Landing at JFK Airport in New York City Show New Risks

    A string of drone sightings this week by airline pilots flying into John F. Kennedy International Airport highlights aviation risks posed by the increasingly popular unmanned aircraft.

    In the most worrisome of the cases, a drone came within 5 to 10 feet of the left wing of a Delta Air Lines flight Sunday evening, said an official briefed on the matter.
    http://online.wsj.com/articles/fbi-p...ity-1416511819

  • #2
    This forced the other shoe to drop. Manistream media yeaserday had a segment where any and all drone operators would need to require a pilots license thereby making them adhere to the letter or separation, visibility and atc requirements.

    Someone posted a video the other day of a fellow doing an overflight of my old neighborhood which is fortunately not under or in any regualr routes, but disconcerted, my eyes kept a watch to the east and west; areas that may well see Mercer traffic.
    Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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    • #3
      There is also a psychosis related with drones. We don't really know what they spotted, it could be a big bird and at 160 kts they confused it with a drone.

      I don't understand this run for regulations, CIA and FBI drones will never respect separations and all those rules.

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      • #4
        There's one in every crowd. Please show the errrr Honorable Mister McCarthy to the lavatory.
        Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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        • #5
          All that needs to be done is give drones an altitude limit, and better instruction for buyers. We don't require licenses for flying kites or RC airplanes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Leftseat86 View Post
            All that needs to be done is give drones an altitude limit, and better instruction for buyers. We don't require licenses for flying kites or RC airplanes.
            Good God...don't go bringing common sense into this.
            Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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            • #7
              Mam looks out at wing and notices a Klico panel is ajar. Later a fuel cap is missing till he finally spots him ... the Gremlin who procedes to yank the access door from it's hinges. Scowls as the shocked pax and goes about his wayl.

              Do, do, do, do do do do .. stop, do not try ti adjust the hole or the sound, the picrure is being controled by us, you are in "The Twilight Zone"

              Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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              • #8
                We are talking both civilian and military transort flights here. It's just as easy with that stab of the rudder to send it hurlling int a fod sensivitive component.

                Think back and it was the silly and bumbling Fln, one of the talking heads mentoned these the other day and it was just plain inaccurate.

                Do not construe this as an affront to freedom of speech, I fully suspect there will a rise in beaver patrol the latest version is two suits and a slut
                Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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                • #9
                  We are talking both civilian and military transort flights here. It's just as easy with that stab of the rudder to send it hurlling int a fod sensivitive component.

                  Think back and it was the silly and bumbling Fln, one of the talking heads mentoned theis the othe day and it waw just plain inaccurate.
                  Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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                  • #10
                    Guamaniac......what the hell are you on ?

                    ....and how much is it and where can I get some ?
                    If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                    • #11
                      Near miss with drone at 700ft near Heathrow

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30369701

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                      • #12
                        I was having a bad eye day but now that I look at that drivel I'm wondering. I often can only wear one contact lens.

                        It started with an old series of Twilight Zone episodes I was trying to play on that went horribly wrong?

                        The two suits and a slut/beaver patrol .. it's probably more of a US thing, but major media here have all of the shows using a format that positions a fellow on each side of an anchor woman who is in a very, very short skirt showing a lot of leg. There is not a guy watching who isn't waiting for that "Sharon Stone" moment. Pretty abstract but it had to do with US media trends. Nothing at all like the Wall Street or BBC coverage that is very straight up. The show I was referring to indicated that they may now require pilots licenses is of the former genre. There are so many things here that are totally out of control in areas that adjoin Newark and the New York airports like lasers, folks all over the streets (not sidewalks), in motorized wheel chairs, kids on mini-choppers and ATV's and now the air has become part of the urban circus. Anchor reporters here evolved from the respected wise and fatherly images to "talking heads" that drone (pun intended), on about things they know nothing about and now into what is almost soft porn .. it's amazing and pathetic.
                        Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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                        • #13
                          What's needed is a strong message of a 'you break it, you buy it' where commercial airspace is a proverbial china shop. Even the dullest among us will not play softball in a china shop, if for no other reason than it gets expensive very fast. If a similar dumbass flies his drone into a departing A320 and ends up getting a bill for a CFM-56 rebuild (or prison accomodations for something much worse) I imagine the even darkest bulb on the tree will think twice about droning around airports. I wonder if people know the risks they are placing themselves in.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Evan View Post
                            What's needed is a strong message of a 'you break it, you buy it' where commercial airspace is a proverbial china shop. Even the dullest among us will not play softball in a china shop, if for no other reason than it gets expensive very fast. If a similar dumbass flies his drone into a departing A320 and ends up getting a bill for a CFM-56 rebuild (or prison accomodations for something much worse) I imagine the even darkest bulb on the tree will think twice about droning around airports. I wonder if people know the risks they are placing themselves in.
                            The problem is the same than with the laser beams: It's hard to get the offender (unlike the china shop scenario).

                            Any idiot can fly a drone near (or aim a laser at) an airplane and 1 minute later there have the drone in the trunk (or the laser in the pocket) and you cannot go and search everyone in the zone. Fourth amendment, you know.

                            --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
                            --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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                            • #15
                              We have had a number of laser incidents along the routes into Newark and they were from the Parsippany area, some 15 miles from the airport and they did nail a guy. He could have also been targeting corporate traffic into Morristown or Teterboro. There was also a huge rash of the laser incidents from the boardwalk (wooded sidewalk or strand) at an ocean resort at Wildwood and in those cases it was the vendors giving the laser pointers out as prizes for the games such as knocking milk bottles down with a ball and such.

                              Even with laws, you have to catch the operator and that is a monumental task. It's not rocket science to boost the wattage to increase the range. Back during the CB radio fad of the early 70's, later in the evening the high watt units would come on and use it as a telephone to Puerto Rico.
                              Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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