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  • Evan
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    G-VIIO

    Hope she gets to make more of these:
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5768059

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  • elaw
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    Originally posted by Evan View Post
    GE90-85B uncontained failure.

    Based on the ATC recording, they couldn't have been more than about 30 secs into the takeoff roll when they aborted so I assume they were below V1. It's a lucky thing it happened before then.
    Actually... that may not be the case!

    It's possible that if the a/c continued its takeoff, the wind would have blown out the fire or it may not have started at all. Of course a takeoff with one engine failed has its own dangers, but I think it's at least possible the outcome could have been better.

    I am absolutely *not* saying the pilots did the wrong thing... just hypothesizing!

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  • Observer
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    A closer look

    The damage

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  • Evan
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    GE90-85B uncontained failure.

    Based on the ATC recording, they couldn't have been more than about 30 secs into the takeoff roll when they aborted so I assume they were below V1. It's a lucky thing it happened before then.

    The mayday/fire services call comes about 20 secs after the abort call. The evac call came about 30 secs after the mayday call. The fire seems to have started after they fully stopped. The video appears to begin about 30 secs after the fire began and the first door opens about 25 secs into the video, so approx one minute after the fire began.

    EDIT: BBC reporting 89 mph so they were just under the 80kt call.

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  • Alex - Spot-This !
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    and then you have such idiots...

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  • brianw999
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    Standard airline practise as far as I am aware is to announce "CABIN CREW.....EVACUATE....EVACUATE....EVACUATE" (may or may not include defining which doors to use) meaning cabin crew are to assist the passengers to get out. At least, that's how us Brits do it, nice and calm, no histrionics. There's always one or two who screw it up though by grabbing their carry ons. Probably Johnny Foreigners, Brits do as they're told don't you know old chap ?

    Evacuate = to leave a place, assist in helping others to leave a place, cause a place to be emptied of (whatever it contains)

    AKA ...... F**k off quickly !! (The exciteable version).

    Or.

    "I say old chap, would you mind terribly if I asked you to leave the aeroplane" ?

    Nothing ambiguous about it.

    Joking aside, damn good job by the crew.

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  • Gabriel
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    Now available in AvHerald:
    http://avherald.com/h?article=48c10434&opt=0

    Readers are reporting that BA confirmed that it was a catastrophic engine failure.

    The only release I found in BA.com was this:

    Serious Incident involving BA
    Answer Id 5350 | Updated 09/09/2015 08.02 AM (UK time)


    Summary

    The safety of our customers and crew is always our priority, and we are looking after those who were on board the BA2276 from Las Vegas to London Gatwick following an incident on Tuesday September 8, 2015.


    More information

    The aircraft, a 777-200 experienced a technical issue as it was preparing for take-off from McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas.

    Our crew evacuated the aircraft safely and the fire was quickly extinguished by the emergency services at the airport.

    157 customers were on board the flight, along with three pilots and 10 cabin crew.

    A small number of customers and our crew have been taken to hospital.

    All customers have been provided with hotel accommodation, and our colleagues are helping them with anything further they require.

    We will provide any further updates on ba.com.

    Friends or family with any concerns can call

    From the US 1 800 654 3246

    From the UK 0800 389 4191


    As a small Br.E language comment: I don't like the choice of words in this sentence.

    Our crew evacuated the aircraft safely and the fire was quickly extinguished by the emergency services at the airport.

    Doesn't it sound like the crew fled from the plane?

    e•vac•u•ate
    v.i.
    to leave a place because of military or other threats.


    I know it also has the other meaning too, the (v.t.) one, which means make others evacuate (v.i.).

    But that ambiguity is precisely what I don't like.

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  • Gabriel
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    Originally posted by B757300 View Post
    ATC audio already online.

    https://clyp.it/jrvdzhrw

    Pilot stayed pretty dang calm; not sure I would have.
    Wow, looks like a drill. 100% professional from all the parties involved.

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  • Gabriel
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    Originally posted by B757300 View Post
    Given how long the GE90 has been in service, one would think that any major flaws would have cropped up already.
    Sure, but you can never get rid of outliers completely. These happen, with a very low frequency, even in the most stable and reliable processes.

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  • B757300
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    In all likelihood, she's a write off.

    Looks like the fire burned through and into the fuselage. Looks like the entire bottom of the engine (and the inboard side as well based on other images) is shredded. The engine seems to have just spun itself apart.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-airport#img-2

    It's up to 14 in the hospital, but none reported as life threatening. Most if not all are probably from going down the slides.

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  • akerosid
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    Very glad to hear all on board escaped.

    G-VIIO with BA since Jan 1999. CAA database shows that acft had 76,618h as at 31/12/13, so current hours likely to be around the 83k mark.

    Sadly, doesn't look like 'VIIO will be flying again.

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...6944943&nseq=5

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  • Evan
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    Another video angle... left mains seem to be intact and it appears that the #1 nacelle is damaged on the inboard side, so appears to be uncontained engine failure.

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  • hongmng
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    These scene reminds me of the British Airtours 732 that caught fire decades ago.

    Thankfully this time with a very different outcome

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  • Evan
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    I suppose another possibility is a fuel leak (severed fuel line/connection?) onto very hot brakes and no uncontained engine failure...

    Possibly debris kicked up from the runway and severed a fuel tank or line... or a burst tire fragment... and not the engine.

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  • B757300
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    Originally posted by Evan View Post
    A bit of lax maintenance can bring down the most proven engines...
    Quite true, but one would hope that BA is not guilty of that.

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