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  • Emirates 777 crash-landed in Dubai

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36963112

    Flight EK521 from India to Dubai. Photos show a lot of smoke. Officials report all passengers evacuated and no injuries reported so far.

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    MSN 32700 - A6-EMW

    AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

    Originally posted by orangehuggy
    the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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    • #3
      Evan, Gabriel, 3WE, Boeing Bobby. Ready ? OK then....On your marks....get set.....GOooooooo

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      If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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      • #4
        Looks a kind of wheels up, some of them at least.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-5ATj4jHI
        If it is true that they all got out unscathed its a miracle. Lets hope so.

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        • #5
          Sad day for Emirates, though no doubt much relief that no lives were lost.

          Its first hull loss in 31 years of operations. There are, as is always the case so early on, many different theories as to what happened; windshear, fire on board and undercarriage collapse (none of these are mutually exclusive, of course).

          How much info the UAE authorities will release is another issue. You might recall the UPS 744F that crashed a few years back - there was VERY little in the local media about it.

          Sad end for A6-EMW - delivered 28/3/03 - thirteen years in service; one of the small sub-fleet of non-ER 777-300s.

          http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7252475

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          • #6
            seems it attempted a go around but didnt climb so landed wheels up and caught fire.....i dont know the lowest point a plane can try to climb from but sounds like they got it wrong.....everybody ok.....fantastic stuff that part

            http://avherald.com/h?article=49c12302&opt=0

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Quench View Post
              Looks a kind of wheels up, some of them at least.
              avherald being exceedingly slow and unrespsonsive at the moment, but I think what I read there was that the plane called for a go-around on approach at low altitude, retracted gear but didn't climb and touched down with wheels up.

              Ah yes, page has loaded at last:
              Originally posted by avherald
              An Emirates Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration A6-EMW performing flight EK-521 from Thiruvananthapuram (India) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates) with 275 people on board, was on final approach to Dubai's runway 12L at 12:41L (08:41Z) but attempted to go around from low height. The aircraft however did not climb, but after retracting the gear touched down on the runway and burst into flames. All occupants evacuated safely, no injuries are being reported. The aircraft burned down completely.

              According to ATC recordings the aircraft performed a normal approach and landing, there was no priority or emergency declared. Upon contacting tower tower reminded the crew of lowering the gear and cleared the aircraft to land. Another approach reported on tower frequency. About 2 minutes after EK-521 reported on tower, the crew reported going around, tower instructed the aircraft to climb to 4000 feet, the crew acknowledged climbing to 4000 feet, a few seconds later tower instructs the next arrival to go around and alerts emergency services. The position of the aircraft is described near the end of the runway.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
                Evan, Gabriel, 3WE, Boeing Bobby. Ready ? OK then....On your marks....get set.....GOooooooo

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                I will wait until the facts are in. But I am sure.........

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                • #9
                  If this turns out to be gear retraction before positive rate, it reminds me of this AirCal crash.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hongmng View Post
                    If this turns out to be gear retraction before positive rate, it reminds me of this AirCal crash.
                    I would be VERY surprised if an Emirates crew made that kind of error. But then again these human factors always surprise me.

                    A more likely pilot error would be initiating a go-around AFTER touching down with the TO/GA switches and failing to advance the thrust levers manually.

                    There was a witness report from an alleged pilot that they first touched down hard and then initated a go-around, becoming airborne again but failing to climb out before sinking back onto the runway. If that first hard TD damaged the gear perhaps it collapsed on the second hard TD (which was apparently hard enough for the #2 engine pylon to fail!).

                    IF that report is accurate and the GA was initiated AFTER entering ground mode, the pilot would have to advance the thrust levers manually (if the GA was initiated BEFORE the touchdown, then, even if the plane subsequently touches down, the TO/GA switches will still do the job automatically).

                    So, in that case, it becomes a question of when the TO/GA switches were pushed.

                    Another thought is that the first hard TD may have involved an engine strike that damaged the engine and/or #2 pylon enough to cause a loss of that engine and the GA was being done on the remaining engine. With the weather stats being hot and high (including possible windshear or tailwind) it may have been a performance issue and not pilot error at all.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by avherald
                      Upon contacting tower tower reminded the crew of lowering the gear and cleared the aircraft to land
                      Is that sort of 'reminder' normal, or does it imply the tower could see the gear wasn't down, and either it hadn't lowered fully in time, or there was a fault with the gear hence go around?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sjwk View Post
                        Is that sort of 'reminder' normal, or does it imply the tower could see the gear wasn't down, and either it hadn't lowered fully in time, or there was a fault with the gear hence go around?


                        "Check gear down" is normal in the USA for ATC to tell military aircraft as they are cleared to land. Not sure if it's part of a normal procedure for civilian aircraft in Dubai.

                        If there was a known fault with the gear, wouldn't the go around have been much earlier?

                        On a slightly unrelated note, this video of an Emirates 777 shows gear retraction very late into the go around.

                        Salute and condolences to the firefighter who died.

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                        • #13
                          Unbelievable that passengers were not killed when you see the video of the 'evacuation' where most passengers queued up to get their luggage from the overhead bins before queuing to get out, presumably because the exits and slides were clogged up by people trying to get out with huge bits of hand luggage. Madness!

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                          • #14
                            Unbelievable that passengers were not killed when you see the video of the 'evacuation' where most passengers queued up to get their luggage from the overhead bins before queuing to get out, presumably because the exits and slides were clogged up by people trying to get out with huge bits of hand luggage. Madness!
                            Yup.. idiots

                            That should buff right up
                            AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

                            Originally posted by orangehuggy
                            the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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                            • #15
                              Glad everyone is safe. I once had an interesting experience on a QF 747 where the gear collapsed while we were queuing for takeoff... at FCO.

                              It's not showing up on ASN but here it is.

                              I would be interested to know the Registration number of that particular a/c.
                              AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

                              Originally posted by orangehuggy
                              the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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